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Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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That person was totally unproductive anyway. Just image, they barely wrote a single line of code!

If you fire everyone who knows how to cut a check, your outflows will reduce dramatically.

Well, at least in the short term...

Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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I once worked for a company during Dotcom that failed to pay rent for 7 months, was then forced into Chap 7 at 4:30 PM on a Thursday (we were given 30 mins to vacate the office). The building management then padlocked the doors leaving everything inside for the next 7 months while the they and the major creditor fought over rent and the contents. Turned out the building and the creditor were in fact parts of the same company - Merrill Lynch. They locked themselves out.

You can go quite long without paying rent.

Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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Their policies aren’t exactly written in stone. Yes, on November 11, it was ( https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-twitter-inc-technology-... ) “an email to employees from Musk on Wednesday night ordering workers to stop working from home and show up in the office Thursday morning” , but that was ages ago. Last week, we got ( https://nypost.com/2022/12/30/twitter-closing-seattle-office... ): “Twitter is closing down…

> but that was ages ago I’m not sure if this is really well done sarcasm, but the original article is less than 2 months old.

With the speed at which Elon changes his mind, I think "ages ago" is accurate even if it was less than 2 months ago.

Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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Mid term (2-5 years) it seems like it would be optimal for Twitter to leave SF. Downtown isn't that great to work in and the Elon hate is red hot. They could still keep their SF employees as a satellite office. Bailing on what is surely a very pricey lease is an attractive bonus :-). Though, it would be hilarious if Twitter's no work from home policy lead to downtown revitalization :0). I still think SF has a lot to…

> Also you probably want to run content moderation from somewhere a little less lopsided ideology-wise. A little more normie like Salt Lake City, Phoenix, or Austin. Ideally a content moderator should be able to have a civil lunch with 80% of the country.

Musk fired a significant number of content moderators; I haven't seen any indications that they plan to rehire those roles elsewhere.

Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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I don’t know anything about Twitter’s books but Loan payments in excess of profits doesn’t mean you’re insolvent. It doesn’t even mean you’re losing money. You can be gaining money each year while paying more in loans than you take home in profit.

The key thing here is that the loan payments are new, and are greater than profits were before the loan payments. That doesn't necessarily mean they are losing money -- revenue could have increased, or costs decreased, to make up the difference. Losing money also wouldn't mean they're insolvent -- that only happens once liabilities exceed assets. Still, it's definitely a signal that creditors will take note of. Good…

Ehhh… loans are of course an important part of the books, as is profit, but I would hold that profit/loan payments is an obscure and unhelpful metric that a competent analyst is unlikely to utilize.

Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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Mid term (2-5 years) it seems like it would be optimal for Twitter to leave SF. Downtown isn't that great to work in and the Elon hate is red hot. They could still keep their SF employees as a satellite office. Bailing on what is surely a very pricey lease is an attractive bonus :-). Though, it would be hilarious if Twitter's no work from home policy lead to downtown revitalization :0). I still think SF has a lot to…

Honest question here, do you think Twitter will be around in 2-5 years?

Re: Twitter Sued for Nonpayment of Rent on San Francisco Office

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Unless Twitter has no assets of any marketable value (which obviously isn't the case, the company itself just sold for 44 billion dollars) the landlords will get paid, worst case by having Twitter issue additional stock in a debt for equity swap.

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