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This is a situation that will affect too many men worldwide as they are more likely to live single / be childless. The solution is to have communities or networks of people built explitictly around the idea of caring for others.
It’s called kinship networks built around people with blood ties. In tens of thousands of years nobody has figured out any stronger bond.
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I'm not sure if the shallow, mostly transactional relations men build help in the context of loneliness. Non-religious versions of "churches" seem to fail due to a lack of regular attendance. Free Masons seem to have solved this by building some kinds of pressure to attend. I genuinely wonder why they fell out of favor. Did they just become uncool?
Guys who drop out of freemasonry tend to do so because their girlfriends/wives disapprove (or would) of the social status of the other men involved. I'm in the middle of this issue now, and I can say it's because a generation of men (boomer/X) grew up depending on their girlfriends/wives to manage their social lives. There are actually guys who bring their wives/girlfriends to meet new male friends to vet the guys fo…
Stuff like:
> GenX men are largely codependent and needy owing to pressure to be "sensitive,"
> being largely raised in broken homes,
> so their ideal relationship now resembles what is effectively sexual cannibalism elsewhere in nature.
> They don't identify as men because they think men are who hurt their mothers, the source of their belief in a perfect infant self.
What?
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Guys who drop out of freemasonry tend to do so because their girlfriends/wives disapprove (or would) of the social status of the other men involved. I'm in the middle of this issue now, and I can say it's because a generation of men (boomer/X) grew up depending on their girlfriends/wives to manage their social lives. There are actually guys who bring their wives/girlfriends to meet new male friends to vet the guys fo…
This sounds…unhinged, homophobic, and like black pilled toxic masculinity. Stuff like: > GenX men are largely codependent and needy owing to pressure to be "sensitive," > being largely raised in broken homes, > so their ideal relationship now resembles what is effectively sexual cannibalism elsewhere in nature. > They don't identify as men because they think men are who hurt their mothers, the source of their belief…
This is a situation that will affect too many men worldwide as they are more likely to live single / be childless. The solution is to have communities or networks of people built explitictly around the idea of caring for others.
Right those exist, they're called families. Actually they've existed for longer than humans. It turns out that many animals, particularly mammals and including us, have evolved this behavior where they live with their blood relatives and take care of them, it has worked pretty well for millions of years. Now it so happens that in many modern human societies there's a declining birth rate and consequently fewer famili…
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This sounds…unhinged, homophobic, and like black pilled toxic masculinity. Stuff like: > GenX men are largely codependent and needy owing to pressure to be "sensitive," > being largely raised in broken homes, > so their ideal relationship now resembles what is effectively sexual cannibalism elsewhere in nature. > They don't identify as men because they think men are who hurt their mothers, the source of their belief…
Uncorrected personality traits that seem whimsical in a child may prove to be ugly in a fully grown adult.
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Right those exist, they're called families. Actually they've existed for longer than humans. It turns out that many animals, particularly mammals and including us, have evolved this behavior where they live with their blood relatives and take care of them, it has worked pretty well for millions of years. Now it so happens that in many modern human societies there's a declining birth rate and consequently fewer famili…
You completely ignored that children move far away from their parents, following the money of rich people who concentrate in a few specific geographic areas. That is the whole shtick behind LA, the bay area and NYC after all. You go there because you get closer to the money. It is particularly paradoxical when your parents invest in stocks because then you have to follow your parent's money.
Big cities are filled with highly educated white collar serfs (sorry I mean professionals) who are great human resources.
In rural communities- the birth rate is way higher.
So what are you getting at?
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Who is being forced into relationships with these men? How undesirable could they be having slept with them at least once?
Is there anyone you’ve ever met that you could imagine having sex with but wouldn’t want to be around for the rest of your life, linking your finances to, or raising children with? Think of how many times you’ve heard about someone changing after starting a relationship - whether that’s cheating, putting more effort into dating than they do to maintaining a relationship or, especially given the culture in question, t…
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Uncorrected personality traits that seem whimsical in a child may prove to be ugly in a fully grown adult.
What? Obsessing over men being men and worrying about made up gender norms is the most childish binary way of thinking.
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GP thinks we should go back to religions that teach people to have as many kids as possible and to subjugate women, as they do in conservative countries. He didn't get the memo that the fertility rate in UAE is now 1.37.
Wonder how much of that is propped up by immigrant workers, as it is in the States.
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Guys who drop out of freemasonry tend to do so because their girlfriends/wives disapprove (or would) of the social status of the other men involved. I'm in the middle of this issue now, and I can say it's because a generation of men (boomer/X) grew up depending on their girlfriends/wives to manage their social lives. There are actually guys who bring their wives/girlfriends to meet new male friends to vet the guys fo…
This sounds…unhinged, homophobic, and like black pilled toxic masculinity. Stuff like: > GenX men are largely codependent and needy owing to pressure to be "sensitive," > being largely raised in broken homes, > so their ideal relationship now resembles what is effectively sexual cannibalism elsewhere in nature. > They don't identify as men because they think men are who hurt their mothers, the source of their belief…
I had direct experience with the growth issues facing a traditional fraternal organization. We can't really use the words we mean when we talk about the jargon this comment uses, but suffice it to say, among the scores of men I know socially, the people who use that jargon are punchlines.