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SouthwestAirlines' Meltdown Shows How Corporations Pit Consumers Against Workers

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> Under the thin pretense of Covid, increased labor power has exploded the use of automated technology that creates a frustrating maze to get a simple problem solved or task accomplished Has anyone else noticed how every single service call you make now has a (I suspect permanent) voice message saying "we are experiencing higher call volume than normal". If volumes are continuously higher than normal, then they're ar…

> If volumes are continuously higher than normal, then they're are the "new normal" and companies must adjust accordingly.

You know I think in the current business environment there is zero confidence in what the new normal is actually going to be. I don't think businesses like credit card issuers want to make people hold for a long time but I do think they are terrified of spending big bucks onboarding a lot of call centre staff and then having volumes drop off. And they honestly may not think they can afford the level of staffing required to bring wait times down in the long run and are grasping for technological solutions (that either don't work or are not mature enough to be effective).

As a farmer I certainly feel a bit paralyzed by the "new normal" - are these high commodity prices here to stay? High input costs? Am I facing decade or so of high-cost/high-margin production that would mean the securing land now is the optimal strategy? Or am I facing a decade or so of high-cost/low-margin operations if grain commodities fall back to earth but energy stays high in which case land prices will start to fall? The steady state of 2008-2019 was pretty easy to manage - this is a different world.

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I went to 2 different hot pot restaurants in the last 2 days with wildly different experiences. Both were "all you can eat" style, where you periodically ask for additional orders of meat and vegetables to add to the hot pot. The first had QR codes at the table, where you _must_ order using your phone. You cannot have multiple phones ordering at the same table at the same time. It hard-limited you to making orders on…

The all you can eat was not trying to save money on staffing. Slowing the ordering was the goal of the system. All you can eat is only profitable if people eat every little

That may be true, but if a given group wants to eat a certain amount of food, either they are throttled and stay at the table longer, or they get their food quickly and the table will get turned over sooner. The throttling limits the ability to turn over tables.

Regarding the staffing, I think the robot server is designed to help save on staffing (not the throttling policy, which may also be intended to not overwhelm the kitchen).

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1.7 trillion spent and 25 million for NLRB. Truly the current regime looks after the little guy.

2023 budget is $300M. "the NLRB received a $25M funding bump in the latest Omnibus spending bill signed into law." https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/statement-on-n...

This is where if I were inclined to condescension I’d explain what an order of magnitude is, and how many there are here, but since I don’t actually think you’re stupid can you fill me in on what your point is?

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Like I said, class doesn't define everything, it's one of many factors. I'd encourage you to broaden your world view to more than just economic status.

> Like I said, class doesn't define everything, it's one of many factors. > I'd encourage you to broaden your world view to more than just economic status. It's easy not to think about the importance of your economic status when you're well-off. The vast majority of people don't have that luxury.

I’m not well off.

Like I said, broaden your viewpoint.

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This is only true for people who don't drink alcohol with their meal.

Given I stopped drinking over 20 years ago it is true for me. Also if you are drinking alcohol (and only Alcohol) with EVERY meal, well you may have a problem

Most people don't have every meal in a restaurant.

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This is why my #1 metric to choose a service provider is support capability. Things will always go wrong and if the point of contact with the customer does not have any agency to fix things effectively, I will not deal at all. The exception is the norm, and front facing employees must be able to act instead of just reading a script and hoping the problem will solve itself. That phrase about recorded apologies is just…

How do you evaluate this metric?

It's easier to discard companies by looking up their points of support. If there's not even a phone number where I can get a real person to talk to, that's an immediate out. Typically, then I just ask users about their experience. If I hear stuff like them wasting hours on the phone or not getting any meaningful replies that's also an out. In the end sometimes I end up choosing the less worse version, not going through with any service at all, but there's been rare cases where support was so good that I wouldn't even mind having trouble at all since I know there's always ways to work around them.
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