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The 5% Rule

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Re: The 5% Rule

#101
5% of encounters != 5% of people. In fact, even if the poster tried marketing to the same people at different times, he might well have gotten a different 5%. Some correlation, for sure, but still. Not to mention how encounters are a binary thing - another person might get a different 5%.

Also, the samples he's talking about are not really uniformly distributed over the world's population (i.e. "people"), nor even people in the USA.

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#102

In my experience people who express this kind of view (a slightly-sweeping, slightly-cynical take on the prevalence of shitty people) also tend to be epistemically overconfident of their grasp on social situations. For example, my opinion of the following quote is that it sounds contrived (Not contrived for the blog post, but contrived in the sense that the "brought the hair with her" hypothesis is itself contrived).…

So if I found a hair in my meal, I'd let my server know. It's gross, but it happens This woman found a hair in her meal and threw a fit. Whether she planted it or not (which is definitely a thing people do), she was not being reasonable in that situation.

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#103

While I’m sure this is a real problem, I’ve been on the other side of this equation where you’ve tried your level best to get a problem resolved, and not only haven’t had it resolved, but have been repeatedly screwed even more. For example, many years ago, I signed up for a landline phone (when that’s all there was), and signed up for a particular special service that Ameritech was offering that would allow me to hav…

You are talking about the same problem. 3-5% customers are terrible and so are the 3-5% service personnel

Assuming they called back every month for 6mo and always got a rep in that 3-5%, that's some supremely bad luck...

...unless call center support is a biased sample.

Re: The 5% Rule

#104

I think this is true, but the way I would put it is: While you have influence over 95% of what happens to you, you can only really survive the other 5%. Take solace in the fact that, sometimes, when it seems like there's nothing you can do - you are right! That said, often the path to self-improvement is in situations we've misunderstood as "we can't effect" and are actually caused by us.

well said. great observation. thank you for the comment

Re: The 5% Rule

#105

Implications for parenting: If your kids grade is ~100 people, five parents will be absolute pieces of shit. Figure out who these are and avoid at all costs.

Most kids have 2 parents, so possibly higher!

Re: The 5% Rule

#106

While I’m sure this is a real problem, I’ve been on the other side of this equation where you’ve tried your level best to get a problem resolved, and not only haven’t had it resolved, but have been repeatedly screwed even more. For example, many years ago, I signed up for a landline phone (when that’s all there was), and signed up for a particular special service that Ameritech was offering that would allow me to hav…

You are talking about the same problem. 3-5% customers are terrible and so are the 3-5% service personnel

I think it's more than 5% on the service personnel side. Customers are a more reliable random sample than service personnel, who are likely to not like their jobs in the first place.

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#107

While I’m sure this is a real problem, I’ve been on the other side of this equation where you’ve tried your level best to get a problem resolved, and not only haven’t had it resolved, but have been repeatedly screwed even more. For example, many years ago, I signed up for a landline phone (when that’s all there was), and signed up for a particular special service that Ameritech was offering that would allow me to hav…

You are talking about the same problem. 3-5% customers are terrible and so are the 3-5% service personnel

No this should not be correct (that is if you are assuming the 3-5% rules is correct and I'm not saying it is). The people who work for companies are vetted by the company so in theory the percentage of people who are bad would have to in theory be less simply because of that filter. The people a company (or someone is dealing with) is unfiltered hence the probability in theory again should be higher.

Re: The 5% Rule

#108

I think this is true, but the way I would put it is: While you have influence over 95% of what happens to you, you can only really survive the other 5%. Take solace in the fact that, sometimes, when it seems like there's nothing you can do - you are right! That said, often the path to self-improvement is in situations we've misunderstood as "we can't effect" and are actually caused by us.

My dad phrased it this way, talking about running into this kind of person in the military, "Sometimes you run across an asshole, and there's nothing you can do about it until you or he moves along."

Re: The 5% Rule

#109
Even though I agree that there is probably a fixed porcentage of bastards in the world's population, I think 5% is a too high number. That's one in twenty and I don't think I will find one in twenty people who are the classical bastard in the groups of people I interact with.

I think it's more like 2-3% in my very subjective experience, of course.

I also think that the setting matters a lot. If you are in a very competitive environment, like the author in the article, maybe the circumstances push the number to 5%, but if you are in a relaxed, friendly setting, I think the percentage might lower to 1-2%.

Re: The 5% Rule

#110
post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are talking about the same problem. 3-5% customers are terrible and so are the 3-5% service personnel

No this should not be correct (that is if you are assuming the 3-5% rules is correct and I'm not saying it is). The people who work for companies are vetted by the company so in theory the percentage of people who are bad would have to in theory be less simply because of that filter. The people a company (or someone is dealing with) is unfiltered hence the probability in theory again should be higher.

Some percentage of managers, including hiring managers, will also suck, and these can make crappy employees out of people who otherwise have potential to be good.
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