Gripes with RSS after one week • Hacker News Board

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by galleywest200 » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 7:45 PM UTC

Havoc wrote: post #36

My main complaint is that feeds then to just be the first sentence or two. So you still end up opening a browser and getting bombarded with popups and cookie banners and what not. Very tempted to try & combine this with something like FF reader mode and build a scraping & filtering layer inbetween that sends the full text to the reader.

The app I use on Mac/iOS, News Explorer, will scrape the article for me and is quite often successful.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/news-explorer/id1032668306

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by the-printer » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 8:37 PM UTC

europeanguy wrote: post #40

masenf wrote: post #29

As a recent returnee to the world of RSS feeds, I’ve been enjoying the miniflux client [1] self hosted with docker-compose. Fast, cross-platform, not fancy. [1] https://miniflux.app/

Why do you need to host something in order to consume RSS?

This is an odd sentiment that I don’t have a counter argument for other than the beautiful UI of the app shown is worth hosting alone.

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by europeanguy » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 8:44 PM UTC

the-printer wrote: post #42

europeanguy wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need to host something in order to consume RSS?

This is an odd sentiment that I don’t have a counter argument for other than the beautiful UI of the app shown is worth hosting alone.

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Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by the-printer » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 8:51 PM UTC

I’ve found that consuming Web content via RSS encourages more responsible use. The sweet spot between the fire hose and the desert is your own discretion. I couldn’t imagine subscribing to a feed like a news outlet that feels compelled to publish stories on every single event. I would however, subscribe to an individual’s feed, who aggregates news and other commentary on specific or a few related topics to compliment blog subscriptions and what not. The likes of John Gruber and Michael Tsai and Cory Doctorow seem to be among the few online who do this.

For example, I would subscribe to a heavily curated Linkhut (https://ln.ht) feed or something like someone’s micro.blog page that doesn’t consist of “status updates” a la Twitter/Mastodon.

In writing this, I’ve come to the realization that while I used to hate Twitter threads when they first became a thing…I still dislike the idea of them…but there is something worthwhile about fragmented, short-form streams of commentary that can point to larger bodies of work: concept maps, articles, Web books, PDFs etc.

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by marbu » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 9:05 PM UTC

bhouston wrote: post #2

Have you tried Atom: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(web_standard)

OP is actually using it, see: https://blog.jez.io/atom.xml

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by linuxdaemon » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 9:11 PM UTC

europeanguy wrote: post #40

masenf wrote: post #29

As a recent returnee to the world of RSS feeds, I’ve been enjoying the miniflux client [1] self hosted with docker-compose. Fast, cross-platform, not fancy. [1] https://miniflux.app/

Why do you need to host something in order to consume RSS?

Google Reader gives a good example of why one may want to host an RSS reader on their own.

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by trog » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

ihuman wrote: post #19

smlavine wrote: post #7

I was going to say that Firefox does show when pages have an RSS feed present, but then I found out it's actually a long-forgotten extension I have installed: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/livemarks/?ut...

Firefox used to have that functionality built in, but they removed it in late 2018

One of Firefox's most annoying interface changes,to me at least. I used this thing all the time. Maybe there was more to it (I'm sure I could dig up the Bugzilla) but I used this feature all the time & can't imagine it was a huge maintenance burden.

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by dave333 » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 9:22 PM UTC

Have used Google Reader, then Digg reader then free Inoreader now paid Inoreader.

What are the best feeds you like? Mine are

BBC

NYT ( via Readium)

Business Insider (not so much lately)

Hacker News

Slashdot

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by catdog » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

Havoc wrote: post #36

My main complaint is that feeds then to just be the first sentence or two. So you still end up opening a browser and getting bombarded with popups and cookie banners and what not. Very tempted to try & combine this with something like FF reader mode and build a scraping & filtering layer inbetween that sends the full text to the reader.

There are RSS readers like Tiny Tiny RSS [1] which are able to do exactly that (in this case using a PHP port of Mozilla's library [2]). Does not work in 100% of cases but is a really useful thing.

[1] https://tt-rss.org/

[2] https://github.com/fivefilters/readability.php

Re: Gripes with RSS after one week

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Post by sys_64738 » Sat, Dec 31, 2022, 9:56 PM UTC

greggyb wrote: post #22

I like Inoreader[0]. The web app is plenty snappy for me, and supports basic vim nav keys, which is a lovely plus. The free plan's 150 feeds are sufficient for my use case. The mobile app also performs well. Mostly it just gets out of my way, which is all I really want. [0] https://www.inoreader.com

+1 from me too. Inoreader also supports Twitter which tames an out of control media simply and plainly.