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Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?
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Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bookmark as reference page / community cork board. Invert the "feed" structure. Instead of going to r/whatever, see new comments on all of your saved bookmarks. Can also piggyback off / strangler fig existing website structure. Ex. bookmarks to titles on goodreads. Add in a similarity graph (people also bookmarked x), and a democratic way to merge bookmarks that point to the same object. And if you want to get really…
Why just invert, when you can offer multiple view simultaneously ? : 1- We keep the r/whatever (subject matter) stream like view 2- We can always have that enhanced "saved bookmarks" view you talked about. They are not mutually exclusive. 3- To expand on your "reference page" (Wikipedia-like) idea, the bookmarks should be more malleable: We ought to be able to collaborate on reorganizing them under different tag-syst…
Yeah, good points. #3, "tag cloud" idea is great, and lends itself to view by tag.
I'm coming at it from the direction, where I see the primary action as "collecting" / "cultivating". Ex.
1. See an article you like
2. add it to bookmarks/instantiate the global bookmark
3. curate it a bit - add an archive link, some tags, link to related article
and then the reward is
4. get notified when someone else bookmarks it + comments, a week or a month later
so the inversion is - on HN/reddit, something gets posted once and there's a big discussion and it disappears. this is the opposite where the page grows over time
How did your project turn out?
Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why just invert, when you can offer multiple view simultaneously ? : 1- We keep the r/whatever (subject matter) stream like view 2- We can always have that enhanced "saved bookmarks" view you talked about. They are not mutually exclusive. 3- To expand on your "reference page" (Wikipedia-like) idea, the bookmarks should be more malleable: We ought to be able to collaborate on reorganizing them under different tag-syst…
Yeah, good points. #3, "tag cloud" idea is great, and lends itself to view by tag. I'm coming at it from the direction, where I see the primary action as "collecting" / "cultivating". Ex. 1. See an article you like 2. add it to bookmarks/instantiate the global bookmark 3. curate it a bit - add an archive link, some tags, link to related article and then the reward is 4. get notified when someone else bookmarks it + c…
You are correct. The primary action is key.
Yesterday, a Show HN [1] was an RSS reader that displays related HN/Redddit comments. I can imagine bookmark managers alerting you in a similar fashion. It will not be as integrated as you specified (single thread by link...), but the scale will be much bigger : Theoretically you can link it (crawl/api) to any site, then you get a dashboard+notification on your existing bookmarks for new
- discussion threads (HN/Reddit...)
- annotations/notes (Hypothesis.is...)
- reviews (alternativeto.net...)
My coda/raindrop "project" is just a "doc template" we use sometimes to organize bookmarks in a small team. It is not supposed to scale beyond that. Many Coda features [2] come handy.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34188734
[2] like voting, grouping columns, collapsing outlines, hover cards, and word/tag clouds
Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?
#135I never found a solution to what I actually want/need: - Snippet bookmarking. I don't want to browse to the whole page again, just highlight and save the piece of it I need to bookmark. - Annotations. I want to highlight, underline, bold, and comment on what I've bookmarked so that I know why I bookmarked it or what I intended to remember later. - In an open standard, like JSON, so that I can do things with the bookm…
Memex [1] is good at Annotation-bookmarking. Research Notes [2] is a less slick option Both are local and offer export. [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/memex/abkfbakhjpmb... [2] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/research-notes/cad...
I've used Memex before, and it was good, but after a while had ingested so much data that it was ba far the highest consumer of RAM on my work computer. I started toggling it off to get some performance back, but then I'd forget to turn back on when it mattered, and only discover later when something I searched for wasn't indexed. D'oh!
Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?
#136I've hidden the bookmarks bar to avoid the temptation to organize my bookmarks. I still make bookmarks, but only because they show up in the address bar when I search for them. I think social media (including github) has mostly replaced the social, collaborative aspect of bookmarking.
Ye gads! I can't live with a browser that hides the bookmarks bar. (-:
Among my first steps during setup is to pin that thing visible. Then, I place just the few most relevant folders and links there. Whenever I start to struggle with whether something belongs in-view on the bar, in one of the bar's visible folders, or in overflow, I know it's time to re-evaluate my categories and whether I some of those links are no longer necessary.
Sadly, I still end up with heap of "just in case I ever need them" bookmarks in "Other Bookmarks". To be fair, many of those are imported from other browsers over the years and from before I really started my bookmarks bar strategy.
To be even more fair…their are too many "Other Bookmarks" for me to not feel daunted at the idea of trying to weed through them.
. o O ( Yep: I'm a bookmark hoarder; there might be something I "NEED" in there. )
Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, good points. #3, "tag cloud" idea is great, and lends itself to view by tag. I'm coming at it from the direction, where I see the primary action as "collecting" / "cultivating". Ex. 1. See an article you like 2. add it to bookmarks/instantiate the global bookmark 3. curate it a bit - add an archive link, some tags, link to related article and then the reward is 4. get notified when someone else bookmarks it + c…
You are correct. The primary action is key. Yesterday, a Show HN [1] was an RSS reader that displays related HN/Redddit comments. I can imagine bookmark managers alerting you in a similar fashion. It will not be as integrated as you specified (single thread by link...), but the scale will be much bigger : Theoretically you can link it (crawl/api) to any site, then you get a dashboard+notification on your existing boo…
The closest thing I've seen is https://ampie.app/, which goes in a similar direction. I bounced off of it (too cluttered, privacy concerns w browser extensions), but it has a lot of the pieces there.