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Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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This is what I don’t get about google. I was all in on their ecosystem but then things like google speakers not working with google work calendars despite thousands of requests for 5 plus years. Meanwhile Amazon added feature to echo quickly. Then stuff like this, they just do not care / have any kind of a customer focus

Can't get a promo for stuff like that. A version of Goodhart's law.

Should have built a new messaging app...

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#112
Have the same experience. I was interviewing a person some years ago, and he added me to a GCP project to demonstrate his test for the job. After he got declined, he did not reply anymore to my emails in which I asked to remove me from the project. As such I still have his project associated to my account.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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I open a ticket exactly 6 years and 1 day ago regarding exactly this same issue: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/35903415?pli=1 . Guess that they will never fix it.

This is what I don’t get about google. I was all in on their ecosystem but then things like google speakers not working with google work calendars despite thousands of requests for 5 plus years. Meanwhile Amazon added feature to echo quickly. Then stuff like this, they just do not care / have any kind of a customer focus

Seriously though. They push asking your Home "what's on my calendar today" with their tips, so I try it, and... wait why is there nothing on my calendar? Even though our Workspace settings are specifically set to allow Assistant access.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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post #76

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If you have a billing agreement in place with a company, doing a chargeback is just nullifying a payment. The balance can still be sent to collections.

Very possibly. If that happens, on the one hand, you’ll definitely escape algorithmic support - you’ll be in a world where people have to listen. On the other, they’ll only respond to certified mail. I doubt Google would send anyone to collections in these circumstances. But - Careful what you wish for!

LOL @ people in collections "have to listen"

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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I think you can invite anyone, and you can assign them permissions but I don't think it actually shows up in your account unless you click an email from GCP containing an invite. I definitely remember adding other "domains" required invitations. (Maybe gmail to gmail doesn't.)

For me, I double checked and an invite didn’t show up. I even created a new project to test and didn’t see an invite pop up when I added my other google account to a test project

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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post #108

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This is what I don’t get about google. I was all in on their ecosystem but then things like google speakers not working with google work calendars despite thousands of requests for 5 plus years. Meanwhile Amazon added feature to echo quickly. Then stuff like this, they just do not care / have any kind of a customer focus

Perhaps they need what Rory Sutherland called a Chief Detail Officer. Everyone is preoccupied by issues that are roughly the size of their team and budget. Few people are concerned by the little things that make or break a user's experience.

This is what operations is supposed to do.

... on the other hand not firing people for negligence is how you build a moat, and pump the stock.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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Facebook groups used to have this issue. A bunch of us at university got in trouble after being added to an inappropriate group without permission, and trying to explain to admin that we didn't actually join by choice was a nightmare. In that case at least we could have left if we had been paying attention.

Solution: add the admin to the same group (or if you can't, then make a worse-sounding group and add them)

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#118

I open a ticket exactly 6 years and 1 day ago regarding exactly this same issue: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/35903415?pli=1 . Guess that they will never fix it.

This is what I don’t get about google. I was all in on their ecosystem but then things like google speakers not working with google work calendars despite thousands of requests for 5 plus years. Meanwhile Amazon added feature to echo quickly. Then stuff like this, they just do not care / have any kind of a customer focus

Yep... This is incredibly frustrating and literally they do not care about fixing it.

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

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Next time just charge them back with your credit card

This tends to be a terrible idea, unless you really just want to nuke your Google account. (Googler, opinions are my own. I work on payments.)

Since you might know - as I've seen the references on social media for this exact occurrence - is this referenced somewhere in T&Cs?

Re: Tell HN: Google Cloud lets anyone add you to a project without your permission

#120
I have a friend who works at GCP and we have discussed this in the past.

There’s a huge organisational disconnect between the internal teams in charge of the “google account” product and the GCP team.

If you’re not a paying customer via GSuite you will get ZERO customer support. As in, even if you’re also a GCP customer but you have some issue with you Google Account there’s next to nothing your account team can do.

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