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Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#11

They recently screwed up a transfer if a .to domain I own. They charged an extra $700 and then messed up the process. The domain was useless for 24 hours. Luckily it was only used for non-revenue services. I asked for a post Morten and to refund the $700 and after waiting weeks gave up on both. I figured it was just a fluke.

What site? In my experience almost every .to website is worth bookmarking. Blocking javascript on as well, but worth bookmarking.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#12
I have been trying to contact them regarding the transfer of a .gq domain of a customer.

Their platform is bugging and marking my order as automated: "We were unable to verify you as a human, please try again later."

I sent a ticket and they replied two days later, saying that they "will not be able to effect this transfer". I asked the reason and didn't received yet another reply.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#13
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why? Is there something inherently bad about free domains? Not the person you've asked but I've seen many legitimate websites using free eu.org[1] (sub)domains but I believe I've never seen a legit use of tk/ml/ga/gq TLDs. I may have seen the cf one used for some configuration tools though. [1] https://nic.eu.org/

Tokelau, Mali, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea and the Central African Republic are all actual countries with legitimate users, although admittedly they're also quite small and poor.

I can’t argue about the rest of them but Tokelau is a series of atolls in the pacific with a population of 1400. Additionally, even the official government website is hosted in New Zealand’s TLD.

https://www.tokelau.org.nz/

So yes, they are actual counties but we can’t use that information to pressure that there’s must be at least one legitimate user (e.g. the government).

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why? Is there something inherently bad about free domains? Not the person you've asked but I've seen many legitimate websites using free eu.org[1] (sub)domains but I believe I've never seen a legit use of tk/ml/ga/gq TLDs. I may have seen the cf one used for some configuration tools though. [1] https://nic.eu.org/

Tokelau, Mali, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea and the Central African Republic are all actual countries with legitimate users, although admittedly they're also quite small and poor.

Poor, yes, but mostly not that small. Mali is huge, 5 times bigger than the UK, and has a population of 21.5 million. Central African Republic is half that size, with 5 million people. Gabon is smaller, but still bigger than the UK, and has 2.3 million people. Equatorial Guinea is actually small, but still has 1.7 million people. Tokelau is tiny in both size and population, and isn't even an independent country.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#15

They recently screwed up a transfer if a .to domain I own. They charged an extra $700 and then messed up the process. The domain was useless for 24 hours. Luckily it was only used for non-revenue services. I asked for a post Morten and to refund the $700 and after waiting weeks gave up on both. I figured it was just a fluke.

File a chargeback for the money.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#16
It seems like that there have been problems for quite a while. There is a sticky thread in the linked subreddit titled "Workarounds for errors when registering new domains with freenom", created 2 years ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/freenom/comments/hixljd/workarounds...

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#17
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tokelau, Mali, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea and the Central African Republic are all actual countries with legitimate users, although admittedly they're also quite small and poor.

Poor, yes, but mostly not that small. Mali is huge, 5 times bigger than the UK, and has a population of 21.5 million. Central African Republic is half that size, with 5 million people. Gabon is smaller, but still bigger than the UK, and has 2.3 million people. Equatorial Guinea is actually small, but still has 1.7 million people. Tokelau is tiny in both size and population, and isn't even an independent country.

While the landmasses are bigger than the UK for some of these countries, their population totals all summed still don't eclipse half the UK's population. They are quite small.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#18
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is there something inherently bad about free domains? I’m aware that they were used for scams and eventually some websites (like facebook) just blacklisted them but other TLD could be too.

> Why? Is there something inherently bad about free domains? Not the person you've asked but I've seen many legitimate websites using free eu.org[1] (sub)domains but I believe I've never seen a legit use of tk/ml/ga/gq TLDs. I may have seen the cf one used for some configuration tools though. [1] https://nic.eu.org/

Well, a few of my friends have used these domains because they were free, but it seems like they kind of use bait-and-switch tactics, monitoring DNS traffic and asking "owners" to pay a hefty fee for the domain name once popularity crosses a certain threshold.

Webmasters also have little control on records and other parameters that are standard at other registrars.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tokelau, Mali, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea and the Central African Republic are all actual countries with legitimate users, although admittedly they're also quite small and poor.

Poor, yes, but mostly not that small. Mali is huge, 5 times bigger than the UK, and has a population of 21.5 million. Central African Republic is half that size, with 5 million people. Gabon is smaller, but still bigger than the UK, and has 2.3 million people. Equatorial Guinea is actually small, but still has 1.7 million people. Tokelau is tiny in both size and population, and isn't even an independent country.

> Gabon is smaller, but still bigger than the UK, and has 2.3 million people.

I doubt GP meant 'quite small' land area. In terms of population then, the UK is roughly 35 times the size of Gabon.

Re: Tell HN: Freenom (the operator of .tk, .ml, .ga, .cf, .gq TLDs) is falling apart

#20
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is there something inherently bad about free domains? I’m aware that they were used for scams and eventually some websites (like facebook) just blacklisted them but other TLD could be too.

Something bad about misusing country codes, but I guess that’s an argument long lost.

What's wrong with using the ISO codes here?

The ccTLDs belong to the sovereign entity whose code it is, in many cases they let some for-profit outfit exploit this resource and keep some fraction of the resulting income.

If the sovereign entity doesn't like how it's run, that's on them to fix it. It's unfortunate if people somehow end up building something important using a name that's ultimately controlled by some tin pot dictatorship, but it's not like you don't know up front.

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