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Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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I'm very happy with my Purism Librem 15. Even suspend is 100% reliable, and one can replace RAM, WiFi card, and it even has a camera/microphone hardware kill switch. Their new model Librem 14 looks even better, but its screen size 14" is too small for me. Why is Librem 14 not in the poll?

I was wondering the same thing. I have been considering the Librem 14 and it looks like a great option. Would be useful to hear thoughts on it relative to the other models in the poll.

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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I would have blindly have voted for Lenovo. Until this year, when (out of technical curiosity) I got an M1 powered Macbook. I use MacOS, but I also need Linux all the time. So I installed Ubuntu on Parallels - and it is amazingly fast, capable and integrated with MacOS. So - my heart wants to have a pure Open Source powered computer. But in practice, this little machine with its infinite battery and mind blowing spee…

As someone who has been on the Linux camp all along, what will I lose, software-wise, if I change to using M1-based Macbook Pro, if a) I just use MacOS b) I use Ubuntu or Debian on Parallels, say, compared to running Ubuntu on a Thinkpad?

Hardware-wise, I think the biggest hurdle for me would be the anemic lack of ports compared to most non-Apple laptops.

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is terrible and one should avoid buying from China at all costs, but doing so because they're "Communist" is ridiculous, the only "Communist" part in China is that it has a tyrannical dictatorship they is cosplaying as "Communist", otherwise they're as capitalist as it gets when it suits party interests.

Good point. Still, one could say that party interests is a feature of every communist state, so it fits in practice.

strictly speaking, party has nothing to do with communism, in fact its singular goal is to aid the society on the path to communism, which once achieved is global, stateless and most importantly classless.

In short, the only feature of party is to make itself redundant.

Of course, that's the utopia, which has never happened (and never will), just like pure capitalism, however.

It is important to understand the underlying ideas rather than dismiss them by throwing cold-war-esque "communist" labels on everyone you disagree with / dislike.

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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Nobody has tried the Lenovo Z13? I have one and it's way better than the ThinkPad I had before. It does get warm, and you can't play games on it, but it feels more premium and has a stronger CPU.

I have it and it's definitely a powerful and solid laptop with a great screen. But out-of-the-box linux support was not great at all. I am usually a debian user, but since it shipped with Ubuntu I thought I'd give it a try (there were other distro choices when ordering the laptop, but Ubuntu was the only debian-based one). The laptop came a couple of months ago with Ubuntu 20.04. I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04, which was…

That's very strange and unfortunate. I haven't rebooted it in a while and I use it every day. So far it's just been a really good laptop. Maybe you can send it back and get a new one?

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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Nobody has tried the Lenovo Z13? I have one and it's way better than the ThinkPad I had before. It does get warm, and you can't play games on it, but it feels more premium and has a stronger CPU.

Port selection seems abysmal on it - two TB(?)/USB-C ports and an audio jack.

Yeah, I think it's meant to connect to a hub. Both sides charge which is something I really like. You are right though, very few ports.

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

#347

I'm very happy with my Purism Librem 15. Even suspend is 100% reliable, and one can replace RAM, WiFi card, and it even has a camera/microphone hardware kill switch. Their new model Librem 14 looks even better, but its screen size 14" is too small for me. Why is Librem 14 not in the poll?

I was wondering the same thing. I have been considering the Librem 14 and it looks like a great option. Would be useful to hear thoughts on it relative to the other models in the poll.

Also interested in Framework.

I would love to see a machine with the repairability and upgradability of Framework combined with the security focus of Purism.

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

#348

I'm very happy with my Purism Librem 15. Even suspend is 100% reliable, and one can replace RAM, WiFi card, and it even has a camera/microphone hardware kill switch. Their new model Librem 14 looks even better, but its screen size 14" is too small for me. Why is Librem 14 not in the poll?

I was wondering the same thing. I have been considering the Librem 14 and it looks like a great option. Would be useful to hear thoughts on it relative to the other models in the poll.

Some reviews are here: https://forums.puri.sm/t/are-you-happy-with-your-librem-14/1....

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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I own both a Framework and a Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 10. I bought them both a few months ago, and I've been using the Thinkpad X1 Carbon line for years.

Between the two of these, it's the Thinkpad hands down that I'd rather use. It's designed for Linux and has thousands of hours more R&D put into it.

I really love what the Framework folks are doing, but their laptop feels like a Raspberry Pi when stacked against a Thinkpad. Hobbyist, toyish. It's going to need a lot more work to feel comparable. A higher budget, more premium option would be great too.

Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering the same thing. I have been considering the Librem 14 and it looks like a great option. Would be useful to hear thoughts on it relative to the other models in the poll.

Also interested in Framework. I would love to see a machine with the repairability and upgradability of Framework combined with the security focus of Purism.

I am only missing a replaceable keyboard in my Librem 15 (but it did not break yet). What else would you actually need to replace?
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