Just got a 12th gen Framework laptop and it works great. The only thing that would be nicer is if they managed to do a touch screen. Still have my Lenovo T420i as a backup but the Framework is faster, runs longer on a charge, and generally does everything a bit smoother.
Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?
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Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?
#212Someone correct me if I am missing some nuance here but I think the two MacBook options aren't contenders for best laptop running Linux. The drivers simply don't support basic things like the touchpad or wifi (at least not without extensive reworking and a modified kernel). Perhaps in some years Asahi Linux will be functional as a daily driver on the newer ARM/Apple Silicon but it's definitely a hobby laptop right no…
Asahi is surprisingly good already including GPU support and the installer script is excellent. Well worth checking out if you happen to have an M1 mac. I actually thought I would kill a few hours on a day off installing it but everything was up and running in 15 minutes.
But if Linux is a tool for your job I wouldn’t daily drive it yet.
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#213PSA: I don't believe that Lenovo should be trusted. They sold malware infected devices in exchange for money and have a long history of subjecting their users to privacy and security problems. With the superfish fiasco first they insisted there wasn't any risk: “We have thoroughly investigated this technology and do not find any evidence to substantiate security concerns,” ( https://www.techshout.com/lenovo-denies-ac…
I kinda view these as entirely different companies and IIRC Lenovo was even thinking about splitting their computer divisions into companies with different names.
That is one thing apple really does well for their brand: only sell premium stuff under one brand (Beats not withstanding). In contrast Lenovo has a mixed reputation: Thinkstuff never had any of the issues you mentioned, but is still tarnished. Similarly, Dell has great high end stuff, but awful low-end and Samsung just has everything (and washing machines and...)
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#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linus himself uses Asahi over an M2 Macbook Air: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/linus-torvalds-uses-...
I believe he also runs it in console mode and doesn't use graphics, X.org, Wayland, etc. So, keep that in mind.
I've never read that about Torvolds, who I believe uses fairly standard GNOME. Could you be confusing him with Stallman who does things like use wget for browsing the internet?
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#215I miss Dell Latitude and HP Elitebook in this list. Both are vastly superior to their consumer-focused products. Especially the Latitude’s I’ve had were absolutely indestructible.
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#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, my name is Matt Hartley. I'm the new Linux Lead for Framework. Our laptops have great support for both Ubuntu and Fedora. I'm typing this from Fedora right now. We also have community support for other distros as well.
Any specific notes for Fedora? I just bought one yesterday.
We have a detailed Fedora guide on your website, under support.
Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?
#217PSA: I don't believe that Lenovo should be trusted. They sold malware infected devices in exchange for money and have a long history of subjecting their users to privacy and security problems. With the superfish fiasco first they insisted there wasn't any risk: “We have thoroughly investigated this technology and do not find any evidence to substantiate security concerns,” ( https://www.techshout.com/lenovo-denies-ac…
I kinda view these as entirely different companies and IIRC Lenovo was even thinking about splitting their computer divisions into companies with different names. That is one thing apple really does well for their brand: only sell premium stuff under one brand (Beats not withstanding). In contrast Lenovo has a mixed reputation: Thinkstuff never had any of the issues you mentioned, but is still tarnished. Similarly, D…
> Thinkstuff never had any of the issues you mentioned
What is "thinkstuff" in this context?
Re: Poll: What's the best laptop for Linux these days?
#218Just got a 12th gen Framework laptop and it works great. The only thing that would be nicer is if they managed to do a touch screen. Still have my Lenovo T420i as a backup but the Framework is faster, runs longer on a charge, and generally does everything a bit smoother.
What distro are you using? I read somewhere in HN that the 12th gen is not recommended for Linux (previous gen was suggested instead).
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#219The answer problably depends on whether one interprets "for Linux" as general purpose laptop use, as a development environment or even for specialized pursuits such as creative/artistic work. These alternative use patterns place sufficiently different demands that it is unlikely there is a single "winner".
Traditionally the linux-on-laptop pain point was full and problem-free use of hardware and in my experience linux on laptops can still serve nasty surprises. E.g the laptop I am typing this has the touchpad disabled as I've had enough trying to reduce its jerkiness.
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#220I've used Arch on a MBA (2015), System76 (Galago Pro), and a Dell XPS 13 as well.
Planning to upgrade to a M1 Air with Asahi soon, with my Steam Deck as a secondary linux portable machine. Once you fix the keyboard layout on Macbooks, it is quite pleasant. I would upgrade to Framework, but its impossible to get where I live, so M1 it is.