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A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by misnome »

xtian wrote: post #61
ROTMetro wrote: post #39

I hope every project you work on has it's source code stolen resulting in failure. And this is coming from a pretty crappy person, but this website sure does love stealing from authors (so that it can enjoy the fruits of their labor).

No one is entitled to a particular form of revenue. We live in an attention-based economy. Talented and savvy authors can find any number of ways to derive revenue from the attention their work attracts apart from charging IP tolls. If not, they can always get a job where they have no ownership stake in the fruits of their labor, like almost every other job and 99.9% of people writing code for money.

This exact argument can be used to justify both POV.

No one is entitled to have any particular piece of media available to them for free, either?

Talented and savvy consumers can find any number of ways to make money to pay for media, like 99.9% of other consumers.

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by Tams80 »

tmpburning wrote: post #50
ROTMetro wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, you mean, the current copyright solution? That has seen creation of works skyrocket? Or do you mean a system where people can steal what they want because 'reasons' and 'they want to pay less because xyz'? Do you propose a system that takes ownership from authors and redistributes their works maybe? Why shouldn't owners get to set the pricing? Just because people want to steal doesn't mean it's ok to. Just becaus…

imagine if you built a building and then someone purchased it... and everyone that visited it also had to also pay you.... thats a bit like how copyright is today... But what is even worst is that they are trying to make you pay them forever (subscriptions).

Then how do you propose that creatives make a living? Come on, no dawdling!

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by pilimi_anna »

Piezoid wrote: post #57

We downloaded libgen sql and zlib sql and exported the necessary data from them. Where does this "zlib sql" come from? Anna's pilimi-zlib2-index?

I believe it is indeed our index. :) Hurray for open source and open data!

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by Tams80 »

ROTMetro wrote: post #39

I hope every project you work on has it's source code stolen resulting in failure. And this is coming from a pretty crappy person, but this website sure does love stealing from authors (so that it can enjoy the fruits of their labor).

I won't say if I have or haven't downloaded ebooks without paying.

But I will say that I have bought both ebooks and physical books from authors that I like and appreciate the work and effort they have put into their craft. I've spent rather a lot on it, actually.

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by godelski »

Tams80 wrote: post #68
jerojero wrote: post #56

Something that has always bothered me about z-lib and libgen and so on is the impossibility of being able to tell quality from the different uploads. Sometimes the epubs are very good, with a good cover and metadata as well as chapters and no weird aberrations; other times, they're unreadable. But the only thing you have to judge quality is size and general description of the upload which in this website it's been re…

Pirates being picky, eh? Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the access that libgen and z-lib provide and think on the whole it is beneficial to society. It is still not paying for people's work though.

A big reason piracy exists is because the functionality of these systems is better than the official channels. There's a reason streaming services led to a dramatic decrease in piracy. There's also a reason that piracy is making a return. Yeah, pirates are picky and they push other services forward.

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by altilunium »

I wonder why the very concept of public library is not illegal at the first place..

I mean, imagine this concept is being popularized at first in the modern era. I'm pretty sure there's a huge opposition, using the very same argument as digital pirates & AI art debate : "It could damage author's income! People will just go read it for free in public library instead of buying it! Public library is morally wrong and should be burned!!"

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by KirillPanov »

survirtual wrote: post #14
Nican wrote: post #4

I like reading about IPFS, but I do not really have the time to learn about it and get involved. Last I remember, Z-Library was having an issue scaling the DHS to handle the number of files [1]. Did those issues get resolved? How is it going now? Also, is there anything being done to ensure every file has seeders? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33716560

I’ve dived deep into IPFS and built several prototypes on top of it. It ended up not being performant enough for me, and that was after heavily modifying the codebase so that it was true p2p browser & server (their webrtc transport had a lot of issues and they didn’t seem too interested in it, but my needs required it as a backbone). The security was also a concern, and the scaling had issues. Pinning millions of sma…

Same experience here.

The #1 lesson they failed to learn from Bittorrent and Tox: your DHT must be sessionless.

QUIC is not a solution to this particular problem. Although QUIC uses UDP, it still creates and manages sessions. This is incompatible with decentralized scaling. At the scale of Bittorrent and DNS you cannot manage this kind of session state without centralization.

Re: A search engine for searching books in the Z-Library index on the IPFS network

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Post by yucky »

jll29 wrote: post #63
yucky wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By the way, the answer to your questions is yes. You say it's theft to take pictures of the pages of a library book? I would need you to cite your sources please. If it matters, I recently ordered 6 hardcovers from an author who's book that I downloaded from libgen was so impressively written, well sourced and thought provoking that I just had to put his best works (the book I "stole" by downloading, and 5 of his o…

Germany has a system where the books purchased by libraries and also printers and scanners contain a fee that contributes to a fund for reimbursing copyright holders (Verwertungsgesellschaft Wort, cf. https://www.vgwort.de/startseite.html ). Very fast copiers/scanners are more expensive - inter alia - for that reason, according to a colleague of mine (I'm not an expert in this). So you copying one page from a book in…

I would imagine authors get compensation from their books purchased by US libraries too. But it's not going to scale with how many times a book is checked out, or even prevent it from being copied after checkout.
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