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Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?

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Del.icio.us re-invented bookmarks way back in 2003, and it lost popularity for a lot of reasons specific to it. But I think the reason there isn't another re-invention is because: 1) Browser sync became a thing, so your bookmarks are everywhere (del.icio.us let you access bookmarks through their site, but sync made that unnecessary for your personal devices) 2) Searching your personal synced browser history got a lot…

Stumbleupon! Thank you for the reminder!

Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?

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I just use a Git repository with plain text (and some custom marking up) files, as my knowledge repository, that also includes copy-pastes of the important information that I found in the articles in question, thoughts etc.

My custom markup consists of:

- a number of '*' at the beginning of a line, for important things (more stars = more important; usually just 1 or 2, sometimes 3, if I'm super excited some more.)

- '#' for comments from me between copy-pasted text

- '[' .. ']' on separate lines to group things together, possibly nested (Emacs allows me to easily jump over them, and down or up nested groups).

- '-' on a line between a copy-pasted comment and its reply; '- -' on a line between two comments (or sub-threads grouped with '['..']') on the same level.

- '\SOME_UPCASED_CATEGORY_NAME' for marking something as belonging to that category

I'm organizing the files into a hierarchy of folders. In case of ambiguity, I use symlinks.

I've written a number of tools to handle such a repository well (search names by regex, search names and content by regex, cd into a directory matching a regex, etc.), currently mostly written in Perl[1]. I've recently started using Rust and will probably move those over to Rust over time. One tool I still want to write is for automatically updating symlinks when they break, by looking up moves in the Git history; I'll definitely write that one in Rust.

It's got more than 17K entries now (including symlinks) after 7 years. The size of the .git folder after `git gc` is 51 MB. I synchronize it (simply via Git) between various machines. I use it to find information again pretty regularly. Even though I call the repository "bookmarks", I'm now also tracking projects in it (ideas, plans, sources etc.), as well as job postings and my handling of them.

So the only bookmarks I keep in the browsers are for pages that I use regularly.

[1] in my big pile of scripts, currently not well grouped for consumption: https://github.com/pflanze/chj-bin

Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?

#74
post #49

I never found a solution to what I actually want/need: - Snippet bookmarking. I don't want to browse to the whole page again, just highlight and save the piece of it I need to bookmark. - Annotations. I want to highlight, underline, bold, and comment on what I've bookmarked so that I know why I bookmarked it or what I intended to remember later. - In an open standard, like JSON, so that I can do things with the bookm…

Memex [1] is good at Annotation-bookmarking. Research Notes [2] is a less slick option

Both are local and offer export.

[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/memex/abkfbakhjpmb...

[2] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/research-notes/cad...

Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?

#75

Tools are not the main problem. What need to be “re-invented?” first is our personal approach to information overload. One of the bigger issues with bookmarks is they always seem valuable the moment you add them, then that value somehow evaporates most of the time. Between Bookmark-Hoarding and Zero-Bookmarks, thoughtful curation will always be an art form.

What about search that is limited to your bookmarks? Shared bookmarks that really work between phones, tablets, computer, vr headsets, etc.? I am not afraid to kill browser windows because I can look up anything in my history. I want to bookmark something and get a webhook notification that I handle so I can build a database of my bookmarks side by side with other content that comes in through webhooks.

Notion.so is great. There are good extensions that bookmark tabs directly to its databases [1] (no webhooks needed)

And there are scripts to import your existing bookmarks using the Notion API. Look at this API too if you want to webhook other custom content.

It is Online so it will auto sync between devices.

[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/notion-web-clipper...

Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?

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post #22

Del.icio.us used to be really good. It's a shame they got acquired and shut down. I don't think there is anything that does a good job with bookmarking today.

Pinboard is every bit as good as Del.icio.us.

Respectfully, it is not, unless you mean that as heavily backhanded. It seems as if Maciej has mostly abandoned any form of customer assistance or help, even for those who've paid money to him.

Re: Ask HN: Why haven't bookmarks been re-invented?

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post #77

For me, instead of bookmarks I would love to have optimised/nicely searchable browser history, and a bookmark as a way to mark more significant history pages.

What about a branching structure visualizing from which websites you clicked on what links to. I Can't be the only one who remembers context easier than URLs
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