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Re: Ask HN: The ISP has a competing product so has decided to block my domain

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They blocked the whole domain

You can’t move your domain to another registrar?

The ISP just points the domain.com to nothing. So changing registrar makes no difference here unfortunately.

Re: Ask HN: The ISP has a competing product so has decided to block my domain

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Looks like this is the authority of regulation in Albania https://akep.al Usually a telecom operator agrees to some specifications as part of winning the bid for the license. And usually those specifications include obligation to be neutral when transmitting data. Try to find that spec, find the right section, and complain formally to the authority of regulation.

Thank you for this. I will definitely contact them. Just common sense says an ISP should not be banning competitor domains.

Actually I will reach out to the ISP 1st to absolutely confirm the reason for the blockage. If I get no response then I’ll contact the above authority.

Re: Ask HN: The ISP has a competing product so has decided to block my domain

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Is the ISP blocking the domain, or is its DNS server returning nxdomain for it? I've seen ISPs provide modems which use the ISP's DNS as a default (via DHCP) unless configured otherwise. Try running `dig mydomain.com @1.1.1.1` to check if that returns the right IP.

Not sure what you can do if they're just serving whatever they want from their own DNS other than telling users how to specify another one. Maybe dnssec is relevant?

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Publicly freely available doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s legal for you to embed them in your website without some licensing agreement. (I’m assuming your site isn’t just a list of external links.) Just as a heads up.

I re-transcode them via my server for better quality and speed. Most of the TV channels themselves have reached out to me and asked me to re-stream their channel because it costs a lot. I have always complied with all takedown DCMA requests rapidly, not many, when they do come through.

takedown DCMA requests are US law. Very different rules might apply, much more restrictive/punitive in a lot of countries. Also, you mentioning that it is about different countries is also an odd thing: TV services usually have distribution rights for third-party material only for some countries. And last but not least, "TV channels" in a lot of countries will make broadcasting laws apply. You will need to cover for a lot of legal questions. Maybe you do already, but frankly it does not really sound like it from your answer...

Re: Ask HN: The ISP has a competing product so has decided to block my domain

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Publicly freely available doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s legal for you to embed them in your website without some licensing agreement. (I’m assuming your site isn’t just a list of external links.) Just as a heads up.

I re-transcode them via my server for better quality and speed. Most of the TV channels themselves have reached out to me and asked me to re-stream their channel because it costs a lot. I have always complied with all takedown DCMA requests rapidly, not many, when they do come through.

do the channels you have permission from have rights to stream to the territories in question?

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Is the ISP blocking the domain, or is its DNS server returning nxdomain for it? I've seen ISPs provide modems which use the ISP's DNS as a default (via DHCP) unless configured otherwise. Try running `dig mydomain.com @1.1.1.1` to check if that returns the right IP. Not sure what you can do if they're just serving whatever they want from their own DNS other than telling users how to specify another one. Maybe dnssec i…

Unfortunately I am here only with a phone. Although I have tried it on multiple friends phones whom live here on mobile and broadband wifi connection, same result. Also installed a trace route app and it just defaults to 0.0.0.0

My domain and same sever IP have been up for over 5 years

Re: Ask HN: The ISP has a competing product so has decided to block my domain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I re-transcode them via my server for better quality and speed. Most of the TV channels themselves have reached out to me and asked me to re-stream their channel because it costs a lot. I have always complied with all takedown DCMA requests rapidly, not many, when they do come through.

takedown DCMA requests are US law. Very different rules might apply, much more restrictive/punitive in a lot of countries. Also, you mentioning that it is about different countries is also an odd thing: TV services usually have distribution rights for third-party material only for some countries. And last but not least, "TV channels" in a lot of countries will make broadcasting laws apply. You will need to cover for…

Well it gets weird. Some of the TV channels here are registered here, but they hire lawyers from states to deal with “competitors” outside the country. So i get the odd DCMA request from a US lawyer for a company registered in Albania/Kosovo. I’m not even sure how that works, but I have complied with them.

Re: Ask HN: The ISP has a competing product so has decided to block my domain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I re-transcode them via my server for better quality and speed. Most of the TV channels themselves have reached out to me and asked me to re-stream their channel because it costs a lot. I have always complied with all takedown DCMA requests rapidly, not many, when they do come through.

do the channels you have permission from have rights to stream to the territories in question?

I am not 100% sure on this. It’s gotten really muddled up because these new ISP companies have spun up and started to create “package IPTV” deals. Although they also illegally provide other countries TV services (Sky Sports, BT Sports, etc) through their package. Instead of sending me a takedown request, they seem to have resulted to just banning competitors. It just does not seem right for an ISP company to have this kill-switch privilege.
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