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Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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Then you run into local zoning. I for one would love more mixed zoning in neighborhoods on city boundaries, but too many entrenched interests at the moment

I live in the UK and local shops, restaurants are ubuiquitous. Is that really something that is actively legislated against in the US?

Extensively, yes. Having housing & non-housing in the same area is rare in much of the US.

Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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Cities exist to serve people's needs. The 2 existing models are a relic of a low technology past: suburbia with long car commutes to downtown, and dense cities built around facilitating mass daily movement to the office through subway/public transportation. Instead, we need self-sufficient neighborhoods catering to different lifestyles and needs (some higher density and walkable, others still car-centric but encourag…

The modern (now past) city model was about economy of scale: competing business in a small area means innovation, lower prices and specialization. Since such model do not exists substantially anymore cities have almost no purposes anymore.

Suburbs where people live but do not have services also suffer.

As a result the classic Riviera model where people live spread, but also find local spread small services survive and flourish. At that point who want to be in cities or suburbs?

I fail to see ANY purposes to "convert offices to residential buildings".

Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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I'm both excited for you and worried that over the medium to long term, companies will adjust the pay down to match people's locales and such salaries will be lower over time from more competition. But as I said, excited for you as it currently stands :-)

The real concern is that companies that are 100% remote will pick Romaina and not Iowa.

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Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm both excited for you and worried that over the medium to long term, companies will adjust the pay down to match people's locales and such salaries will be lower over time from more competition. But as I said, excited for you as it currently stands :-)

The real concern is that companies that are 100% remote will pick Romaina and not Iowa.

Why is that the real concern? Are Romanians (or Indians for that matter) somehow less deserving of higher pay than Iowans?

Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm both excited for you and worried that over the medium to long term, companies will adjust the pay down to match people's locales and such salaries will be lower over time from more competition. But as I said, excited for you as it currently stands :-)

The real concern is that companies that are 100% remote will pick Romaina and not Iowa.

I use to worry about this but in my experience there's too much work and not enough workers worldwide so it's not a big deal especially considering language barriers. Even outsourcing hits physical limits. Having folks in the same or closely related time zones makes a huge difference. Having folks with skin in the game and no Visa issues as well.

I also think opportunities are only going to grow.

Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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Cities exist to serve people's needs. The 2 existing models are a relic of a low technology past: suburbia with long car commutes to downtown, and dense cities built around facilitating mass daily movement to the office through subway/public transportation. Instead, we need self-sufficient neighborhoods catering to different lifestyles and needs (some higher density and walkable, others still car-centric but encourag…

> The 2 existing models are a relic of a low technology past: suburbia with long car commutes to downtown, and dense cities built around facilitating mass daily movement to the office through subway/public transportation

I’ve been traveling Europe this month and visited several towns and cities both large and small. From tiny villages of a few hundred to 4,000,000+ people monsters.

One thing that struck me as vastly different than how USA does things was the mixed zoning. Every city, no matter the size, feels alive. People live there. They don’t sleep in one area then go live in another. Everything happens organically near where the people are and the city/town/neighborhood/village never feels empty.

> Instead, we need self-sufficient neighborhoods catering to different lifestyles and needs

This is exactly what Europe feels like. A high street is never far, even when you’re in a sleepy residential neighborhood. At the very least there’s a small grocery store and bar on the corner.

Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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> cities must let developers convert office buildings into housing This is an Activist piece - not an Analysis piece. You cannot trust facts reported in an article that's advocating change. It cherry picks a number of facts in order to further the arguments.

> convert office buildings into housing Can't be done. Office buildings of significant size are not engineered for 24/7 human occupation. The sewer will be inadequate. The water will be inadequate. Retrofitting this would be spectacularly expensive, if it's even possible, as mechanical and plumbing chases are sized for the original design requirements and are difficult (if not impossible) to alter. It may be possible…

Even ignoring the effort needed and it's cost: who want to reside in former office buildings if now downtown areas start to be depopulated from local workers and so services built for them?

Re: Remote work’s toll on cities

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> cities must let developers convert office buildings into housing This is an Activist piece - not an Analysis piece. You cannot trust facts reported in an article that's advocating change. It cherry picks a number of facts in order to further the arguments.

> convert office buildings into housing Can't be done. Office buildings of significant size are not engineered for 24/7 human occupation. The sewer will be inadequate. The water will be inadequate. Retrofitting this would be spectacularly expensive, if it's even possible, as mechanical and plumbing chases are sized for the original design requirements and are difficult (if not impossible) to alter. It may be possible…

I live in a converted office building. And few office buildings are over 50 stories (in fact, the higher floor counts are usually residential towers).
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