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For people who want to reduce meat consumption for environmentalist reasons, being strictly vegan would sometimes do more harm than good (e.g. almond "milk" involves more CO2 emissions than milk). So the concept of a meal that doesn't include large amounts of meat, without necessarily being vegan, is a valuable one.
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But you accept that Buffalo Wings contain no actual buffalo, right? Just like a Breaded Drumstick was unlikely to have been used by Ringo Starr. People understand the colloquial terms for foods. The term "vegetarian pork" may be vague an unappealing to you - but sales figures show it is pretty attractive to lots of people. And, to a veggie like me, it gives some indication of the flavour profile, which I personally f…
Honestly, I don't know what 'buffalo wings' are, I'm only aware of the phrase from American film. To use 'chicken drumsticks' then, yes obviously no drumstick, but certainly chicken, as though a drumstick made of chicken instead of wood. A 'vegetarian drumstick' only tells me it's not made of chicken, and that it's edible, non-wood, I suppose. 'Vegetarian chicken drumstick' is a contradiction. An equivalent to 'chick…
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Are you implying humans evolved to only eat plants? Every documentary and paper on early humans I see points to otherwise, and that our large brain was directly a result of access to extra protein from hunting meat. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/04/eating-meat-l...
Do we know this for sure, though? I don't think we do. Sounds like self-congratulatory hogwash to me. Creatures eat what they can. Some purely carnivorous species have been around way longer than us, and yet, the stars did not align just the right way for them.
We know for sure we have evolved to be omnivores. This can easily be determined based on e.g. our teeth and the length of our digestive system.
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I personally like the “plant based” term, because for me “vegan” was always defined as a negative (vegans dont eat this and dont eat that), whereas plant-based just means what it says. In my experience in shops in the UK at least, there will always be a little “vegan” logo stuck on the packet as well
Veganism is an extreme and therefore it tends to attract people who are seeking extremes. This brings a rather negative image because there's always a part of intolerance and/or unreasonableness in extremes. I think most people will think that, for instance, not eating honey or eggs is too extreme.
Maybe honey is extreme, but watch a youtube video of them shredding male live chicks that won't lay eggs so aren't useful is the closest thing to hell i've ever seen.
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There is another distinction: Vegan is like kosher. It is for people who "can't" eat meat. I feel funny if I order something that is vegan or kosher because I wonder what people think about my identity. But there is no such problem if I order something that is "without meat" or "made from vegetables" or even "plant-based" (or in the case of kosher: beef or chicken instead of pork). Still, I prefer the term vegan over…
I feel funny if I order something that is vegan or kosher because I wonder what people think about my identity. Next time you've been out at a restaurant, after you leave ask yourself if you can remember any of the other patrons and what they ordered. Unless something out of the ordinary happened the answer will be no. Everyone else is the same. No one thinks about you, judges you, or even really notices that you exi…
Yesterday I was at a BBQ restaurant. Some of the other patrons (sitting at the same table as me!) had a chicken-fried steak, another had a half-rack of ribs and green beans. Someone the next table over had some brisket and okra. The table on the other side had a tower of onion rings. Remembering these things isn't really taxing at all. Now, I truly don't care about these things, other than that I do like to somewhat remember what my friends do and do not like to eat so I know what to suggest or potentially cook them when they come over for dinner.
I do somewhat agree though, if it's on the menu order what you want. If someone judges you immensely because you got the vegan chili, that's their issue.
I have a can of bug spray that is "plant-based" (eucalyptus oil). Ricin is "plant-based," as is cyanide.
I think it's a shame that 'vegetarian' has come to mean 'lacto-ovo vegetarian' in the vernacular. Now, 'plant-based' generally takes the position in language that 'vegetarian' should occupy. To be clear, there is also a distinction between 'plant-based' and 'vegan' in that the latter has ethical implications. If making a product caused animal suffering, but that product wasn't made from any animal products, then I'd…
Vegetarian for me always meant something like “not eating meat”. Milk and eggs were seen by me and I believe the general consciousness as ok for the most part.
I’d disagree that vegetarian has “come to mean” lacto-ovo, unless you’re talking about a time before the late 80s, or a different scene than the uk.
> Same with “plant-based cookie”—does that mean no animal butter, but yes to eggs? An egg isn't the fruit of a plant; of course it's not plant-based if it contains eggs. Everyone should be irked, regardless of their political alignment in the area of food, if they are told that something with eggs is plant-based. It is a mistake or misrepresentation. Plant-based can only possibly mean that it's made from leaves, stal…
"Plant-based" does not imply uniquely made of plants as per the dictionnary definition of 'based'. That's an issue with the term, which is fuzzy and aimed at marketing.
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If you're OK with eating food picked by slaves, quasi- or otherwise, then you have more to think about than veganism.
Are you aware of how lithium ion batteries are made?
Did you know when you buy gasoline at the pump you're supporting a market which buys missiles for Saudi Arabia to bomb Yemen?
Personally, I love fake-bleeding plant based impossible burger. Tastes great. Better for the planet. I am sad that vegans have decided it’s gross and wrong.