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What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Post by lazide »

anon291 wrote: post #29
lazide wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SIDS data shows a (relatively) high occurrence of kids dying by having parents roll over on them, or them getting entrapped/suffocated in bedding. In traditional cultures, this usually gets covered up. Additionally, it’s much harder for the parents or kids to get consistent sleep (often already causing a lot of difficulties during this time), when toddler age kids are in the same area, due to differing schedules. In…

If you and your spouse are of healthy weight and the mother breastfeeds all night and the bed is stripped of heavy bedding and pillows this is unlikely. I wish doctors would give parents this advice because what happens now is that many American parents will cosleep without admitting it and don't know what to do when they engage in it. In many traditional cultures, the baby is breastfed all night and the bed is strip…

Considering nearly zero Americans are of healthy weight right now (obesity rate over 42%), even if you don’t consider stress eating that often happens with a new baby - just limiting by healthy weight or not is going to bias any results towards a pretty small group of people.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Post by MWil »

We use an app called Huckleberry for sleep training our first child and I am more than satisfied with the results after 13 months. Our daughter sleeps between 10-11 hours at night, has a daytime routine-ish for naps +- 1hr (until we're down to one), she eats great, and yes selfishly - we, the parents, are very happy about the overall schedule and predictability.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

darrmit wrote: post #12

I'm more interested in the long-term psychological effects of sleep training and how it affects a child's perception of "secure attachment" [1]. We sleep trained our oldest and did not our youngest and their personalities couldn't be more different. Of course, this may be entirely unrelated, but it's still something my wife and I have wondered about as we've learned more about it. [1] https://www.betterhelp.com/advic…

I am also interested. Buried in the article is a note that by age 6 there was no appreciable difference in children with sleep interventions and without.

While this article shreds a lot of studies on sleep training, it goes on to cite a lot of others without evidence of equally scrutiny, so who knows.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

impostervt wrote: post #10

Did this with both my kids. The first one, probably not until 8 months old. The second we did earlier, at like 6 months. Prior to sleep training the first one, I'd have to carry her around and sing to her for almost an hour before she'd go to sleep. It was rough sleep training her. Took less than a week, with the first 2 days being the worst (probably 3+ hours of repeatedly checking in). Anyway, both kids adapted and…

Did your kids get sick a lot? Mine went to daycare, and picked up a virus literally every other week. We could not continue sleep training while she was sick and crying from congestions/fever/etc so we just coslept.

With the second, we decided beforehand not to bother with sleep training, since he is our last and we liked the feeling of sleeping with them.

They both sleep alone now, although we put them to sleep by cosleeping and then leave.

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Post by smallstepforman »

From Darwins point of view, klingy children slept besides their parents, were not eaten by sabre tooth tigers, and passed on the klingy gene. Babies that slept alone were eaten by Sabre tooth tigers, and did not pass their “can sleep in isolation” gene across.

So why fight nature, accept it as part of life. Sleeping together bonds parents and children.

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Post by GuardianCaveman »

goldenchrome wrote: post #25
leokennis wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a simplistic potshot. If you go to your baby every time it cries that could mean a lot of work, so much it ruins your own rest/health/sanity and makes you a worse parent at the times the baby isn’t crying.

A defenseless child wants nothing more than to sleep next to their parent. Everyone sleeps better.

They also want a steady stream of cookies and iPad games and to be able to climb on high dangerous objects but maybe we shouldn’t indulge every want of a child.

Re: What happens when babies are left to cry it out?

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Post by joshribakoff »

smallstepforman wrote: post #36

From Darwins point of view, klingy children slept besides their parents, were not eaten by sabre tooth tigers, and passed on the klingy gene. Babies that slept alone were eaten by Sabre tooth tigers, and did not pass their “can sleep in isolation” gene across. So why fight nature, accept it as part of life. Sleeping together bonds parents and children.

Because were not at risk of being eaten by saber tooth tigers? By the same logic, we should just give in to our sweet tooth that evolved naturally and ignore our “unnatural” scientific knowledge of diabetes and obesity

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Post by paulryanrogers »

goldenchrome wrote: post #25
leokennis wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a simplistic potshot. If you go to your baby every time it cries that could mean a lot of work, so much it ruins your own rest/health/sanity and makes you a worse parent at the times the baby isn’t crying.

A defenseless child wants nothing more than to sleep next to their parent. Everyone sleeps better.

Unless the baby gets caught in the covers or rolled upon during the night. Every approach likely has some pros and cons, so barring randomized and reproduced trials I take all claims as unproven.
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