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Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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Post by 082349872349872 »

greggarious wrote: post #38
082349872349872 wrote: post #13

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> Like a typical American, I only speak English, though I know enough German and Spanish to navigate public transit YMMV, but from my experience, I'd suggest budgeting ~2 years to get to reasonable fluency wherever you wind up going, and ~5 years to feel like you've got the hang of your adopted culture. (That's starting from scratch; these days with everything available from home on the internet you might be able to…

Thanks I know it would take a long time hence thinking hard where I will end up.

Of course, the flip side is having put in those ~5 years, you will have also gained social and political changes which I see as unlikely as occurring in the Old Country on a time scale shorter than ~25, if ever.

(you mentioned NDP: I'm not up on CA politics, but would guess that'd put you firmly centre-left here, with Socialists and Greens as major parties who are even further left)

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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082349872349872 wrote: post #41
greggarious wrote: post #38

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Thanks I know it would take a long time hence thinking hard where I will end up.

Of course, the flip side is having put in those ~5 years, you will have also gained social and political changes which I see as unlikely as occurring in the Old Country on a time scale shorter than ~25, if ever. (you mentioned NDP: I'm not up on CA politics, but would guess that'd put you firmly centre-left here, with Socialists and Greens as major parties who are even further left)

And in the USA it engenders such severe and persistent harassment you need to emigrate if your candidates win and your opponents lose.

(Congrats to Ed Gainey, and Mike Doyle should make sure the door doesn’t hit him in the ass on the way out.)

I’ve started to just describe myself as “left libertarian” to avoid getting into semantic slapfights with adjuncts who argue over the views of dead White Russian men instead of dead white Americans.

(People forget that George Washington was an independent and things have been going downhill in this country ever since IMHO)

The greens here are morons who got signal boosted in such a way they killed a generation of nuke plants that could have bridged the gap to solar and opened the door to fracking as they took cushy organizing jobs that do nothing but unionize other cushy nonprofit jobs while the minimum wage hadn’t been raised since I made my first emigration attempt in approximately 2009, after the Pittsburgh G20

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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Post by weatherlite »

greggarious wrote: post #36
weatherlite wrote: post #30

> Where would you go if you woke up one morning and felt like your US Passport was worthless? I get that you feel that but you have no idea how privileged that sounds...a huge chunk of humanity would love to trade places with you. Even Europe isn't having a ball lately economically. I really do hope you immigrate somewhere just to get a healthy perspective on your situation.

>I get that you feel that but you have no idea how privileged that sounds... And I don't think you understand how many times I've gone into detail why I feel this way and had folks react, aghast, that I didn't do it sooner. Did you miss the part where I interviewed at two FFRDCs? To have folks refuse to interview me except for "defense" or precarious nonprofit positions after years of abuse is unacceptable. I'm worki…

No offense but it really does sound to me like you have a lot on your plate already, moving places imo won't do you much good especially if you have some kind of support (family/friends) where you are at. Hope it doesn't sound patronizing I do hope you find whatever it is you're looking for.

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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weatherlite wrote: post #43
greggarious wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I get that you feel that but you have no idea how privileged that sounds... And I don't think you understand how many times I've gone into detail why I feel this way and had folks react, aghast, that I didn't do it sooner. Did you miss the part where I interviewed at two FFRDCs? To have folks refuse to interview me except for "defense" or precarious nonprofit positions after years of abuse is unacceptable. I'm worki…

No offense but it really does sound to me like you have a lot on your plate already, moving places imo won't do you much good especially if you have some kind of support (family/friends) where you are at. Hope it doesn't sound patronizing I do hope you find whatever it is you're looking for.

I don’t have family here anymore and very few friends.

I warned folks if you cross certain lines, there is no going back.

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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Post by greggarious »

tlb wrote: post #35
082349872349872 wrote: post #4

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> allow access to more countries than any other passport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henley_Passport_Index differs: looks like an IT passport currently beats a US (albeit not significantly) for visa-free travel.

That's an index of how many countries don't require a visa. But you might someday care much more about how hard your embassy will work to rescue you if you get kidnapped or falsely arrested in a less rule-of-law-oriented country. A US passport really comes in handy in an emergency.

No, it doesn’t. It’s not helpful in an emergency stateside either, most of the people who’ve helped me since 2016 are European or Canadian

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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Post by greggarious »

weatherlite wrote: post #31
082349872349872 wrote: post #4

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> allow access to more countries than any other passport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henley_Passport_Index differs: looks like an IT passport currently beats a US (albeit not significantly) for visa-free travel.

Well the Netherlands really wants to attract Americans it seems to me https://expatlaw.nl/dutch-american-friendship-treaty . The treaty is one directional as far as I know (Dutch people who want to do the same in the U.S will find brutal requirements). So yes there is a lot of strength in having an American passport...

When you can’t save up the 5K due to harassment from Nazis that treaty isn’t super useful

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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Post by greggarious »

cko wrote: post #28
082349872349872 wrote: post #20

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polymer currency FTW, too. Is that Edelweiss on the 50? (just curious: how is the war affecting you all?)

Plastic cash is awesome, but definitely less foldable. I'm looking at a 50 right now and it says Aurel Vlaicu under it. I'm in the Transylvania region. I think I've seen some Ukrainians here but pretty unaffected by the war, besides high energy costs.

Thanks for sharing I’ll try to visit.

Re: Ask HN: Where Would You Emigrate To?

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Post by greggarious »

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #19

Get the passport, go to the places and see for yourself how much you enjoy them.

This is probably the correct strategy, but inability to raise the funds to do so despite some very marketable skills are why I want to leave in the first place
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