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Thank you. My wife suffers from this and its night and day different from osteoarthritis and my wife who has has been offered plenty of ridiculous "cures" that people somehow believe highly paid specialists just haven't though of.
Sorry your wife suffers from this. I just wouldn't be so confident that highly paid specialists have time to keep up on the latest research in their field. In my experience most do not. They're highly paid because they see a lot of patients, not because they read a lot of research.
A new treatment for arthritis: Vagus-nerve stimulation
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Re: A new treatment for arthritis: Vagus-nerve stimulation
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Oh boy. No. Slowing your breathing is not going to protect against the effects of electrically stimulating the vagus nerve. Whether or not the TENS approach to vagus nerve simulation is effective or not, please don't believe this will somehow help.
I think the advice was to forgo TENS in favor of breathing, not to mitigate adverse effects of TENS with breathing.
Re: A new treatment for arthritis: Vagus-nerve stimulation
#74another win for introducing bio-electricity into our modern arsenal of western medical solutions.
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Thank you. My wife suffers from this and its night and day different from osteoarthritis and my wife who has has been offered plenty of ridiculous "cures" that people somehow believe highly paid specialists just haven't though of.
Sorry your wife suffers from this. I just wouldn't be so confident that highly paid specialists have time to keep up on the latest research in their field. In my experience most do not. They're highly paid because they see a lot of patients, not because they read a lot of research.
This just isn't true. A GP (General Practitioner) sees a lot of patients. The only realistic reason you can get seen by a GP in good time is because they tend to leave some slots open for more urgent things: The reason you can't get in to see a specialist on the same day (usually) is because they don't.
Specialists get paid more because they specialize: They won't know as much about curing everyday ills and they gave up on that when they specialized. Medicine is complex, and it only makes sense to have folks specialize in some things (like bones and neurology and whatnot).
We see the same thing with other professions, though not all pay more for different things. Knowing how to run an industrial kitchen (factory, large cafeterias, etc) is different from fast food, for example. Folks with knowledge of specialized systems get paid more, in general: This is your medical specialist.
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Lazy thinking. Governments that provide and purchase healthcare services are also in the business of funding research. In what world do we not see an alignment of interests for studies from nutritionists and dieticians on this topic? We have a LOT of studies on low fodmap diets and their health effects.
Unfortunately, this thinking came about through my direct experience as someone seeking treatment for a chronic disease. For the specific disease I have, there are endless studies about various drugs, and very, very few studies about non-drug treatments, many of which are known to be effective in the patient community, but lack enough "studies" to be part of the standard treatments recommended by doctors. Instead, we…
First things first: Don't you think that if we had better drugs for whatever you have, that we wouldn't go with that in general? (I know there are exceptions that say that we wouldn't, but these are exceptions).
Second: 25% effective is better than nothing. I have MS. The first real drugs - all injections with plenty of side effects - were around 33% effective or something like that and might have reduced severity of the stuff it didn't stop. This wasn't after 2 years, this was the out-of-the-box effectiveness.
And it was still worth it. This is because an imperfect solution is better than no solution whatsoever. Know what happens in MS when you have fewer flares? You have less risk of permanent damage. It meant your risk of bad events is less. You have less chance of not being able to walk or not controlling your bowels or having full vision.
The drugs were imperfect because our knowledge was (and is) imperfect. That was the best we had at the time. But then again, it was the foundation for modern drugs which are more effective (and easier to take than an at-home injection). Cost is still an issue, but single-payer systems still pay for them because the overall cost is less than the cost of unchecked disease.
Most, if not all of the diets advertised for MS have not proven themselves, despite the claims of the folks writing the books (most of which have had other interventions and might have just been lucky with their disease progression, like I have been so far).
TLDR: An imperfect drug that helps a little is better than no help at all.
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Sorry your wife suffers from this. I just wouldn't be so confident that highly paid specialists have time to keep up on the latest research in their field. In my experience most do not. They're highly paid because they see a lot of patients, not because they read a lot of research.
It's a legal requirement for doctors to practice continuing education to keep their medical license. It is literally part of their job to "keep up on the latest research."
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Thank you. My wife suffers from this and its night and day different from osteoarthritis and my wife who has has been offered plenty of ridiculous "cures" that people somehow believe highly paid specialists just haven't though of.
Sorry your wife suffers from this. I just wouldn't be so confident that highly paid specialists have time to keep up on the latest research in their field. In my experience most do not. They're highly paid because they see a lot of patients, not because they read a lot of research.
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Did you eliminate or make any effort to cut out vegetable oils? These are completely awful for health and should not be consumed.
Sorry, but WHAT? Any citation to backup your claim? Please and thank you.
There are also some molecular pathways that might be triggered by substances in plant oils but there's not much systemic research into this yet.
But I think it's all plausible. There's really no harm in restricting yourself to just olive oil out of all extracted plant oils. And since it cuts out most processed foods available on the market it might help you in other ways.
You can still eat plant oils with the whole plants they come from becuse you won't be able to eat even remotely close quantities of them this way.
Plant oils are not inherently safe. Canola oil for example is just rapeseed oil extracted out of plant variety that contain as little as possible of the poison that makes rapeseed oil not safe for human consumption.
The fact that we were able to breed the plant that doesn't immediatelly kill us doesn't mean it's fully safe to eat.
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Did you eliminate or make any effort to cut out vegetable oils? These are completely awful for health and should not be consumed.
Sorry, but WHAT? Any citation to backup your claim? Please and thank you.
I like that one and it has good references. I could find more (Crisco and trans fats... duh) but I mean come on...
Seed oils like canola oil are manufactured and did not exist before 1900. They're totally unnatural and heavily manufactured with solvents, preservatives, high heats, deadorizers, coloring. Seed oils go rancid so fast without chemical processing and preservatives before they're bottled.
Do you want to cook with stable saturated fats in ghee that has been used for generations after generations - Or manufactured seed oil, first sold to the public as Crisco by P&G? Seed oils do not occur in nature, they are manufactured. Do you want to shove it down your gut until good enough studies prove it's safe or unsafe? Not me!
Vegetable oils. Good history here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uqj35nHB0g&t=749s This doctor looks into numerous studies in this lecture, but fats and seed oils are covered from 749s as linked and the next ~25 minutes. Its part 1 of 3 lectures. Highly recommend