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Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

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Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#51

Most old books are effectively disposable decor - the industry prints them by the millions and many have a limited life akin to the Dreamweaver how-to's. The "last a lifetime" highly sought-after books are truly the exception here. For archival purposes you can go see if it's in the Library of Congress or scanned into Internet Archive, and if not, that's a project you can opt to take on(but it's pretty high effort).…

About 30-some years ago, I bought a book entitled "The Unix Programming Environment". I was just going to college, and the machines were all unix-based. I figured it was worth some of my student grant to figure out how to use them..

A few months ago, I picked up my significantly dog-eared copy of TUPE and leafed through it to a section I'd remembered being about 'hoc', the higher-order calculator language they derive from first principles. I'm currently writing a 6502 compiler and I was implementing the assembler stage. I wanted my assembler to have macros and be able to calculate expressions etc., because I'm planning on having an asm [...] block in the high-level code. Being able to call the macro "_xfer32 r1,r2" is a lot more appealing than a long series of lda/sta...

So I sat and read about hoc, and worked my way through it, eventually coming up with something I could put into my code and call for any expression calculation. The compiler is a full-blown AST-based model but assemblers are much simpler beasts, and accepting of more limitations. Hoc (or rather an adaption of it) was an ideal basis for what I wanted.

Some old books have timeless wisdom within.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#52
post #2

The charity shop really won't want them if they have no resale use/value. I'd be astonished if those books cannot be usefully recycled alongside (say) cardboard. But you might first ask your local museum or university computing dept if they'd like some for historical record!

In his "diaries of a bookseller" series, Shaun Blythell, owner of a 2nd hand bookshop in Scotland, often describes taking crates of unwanted books to a recycling facility.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

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post #28

Just throw them in the trash. There is no way to recycle them, and nobody needs them. Do not waste your own and other people’s time by trying to “find them a home”.

> There is no way to recycle them

In NYC, we can put out paperback books with our paper/cardboard recycling.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some examples of comp Sci/programming "last a lifetime" books? I am just a little confused about this statement.

IMO, the following would be in that category: Algorithms, unix networking, assembly books, the art of computer programming, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, anything by Benjamin Pierce, good compiler books, discrete mathematics, the art of electronics, Princeton Companion to Mathematics, Spivak's Calculus, ...

Theory of Computation

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#56
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of love this idea. How do you do this, especially if you're throwing originals away, in a frustratingly and methodically legal way?

There are many legal archival websites out there. The way I see it, is that I am merely transferring the informational data that I already own from one medium to another. I am not 'pirating' anything that I didn't already own before. Those books that I couldn't replace, I kept. A lot of cassettes, vinyl LPs and CDs I made copies of myself from my own media. That took an investment of my time in order to save my space…

I went through this years ago and have some regrets. I don’t regret getting rid of all physical items, but some. Here’s why:

1. Album art and lyrics… gone. Would have loved to share these with my son

2. Digital books can’t be skimmed. I have a physical copy of Turbo Pascal above a toilet and love to skim it while doing the business.

3. Photos. We have tens of thousands of digital photos. The gems get lost in this mess even if you star/favorite them.

If you have a few shoeboxes of physical photos, don’t get rid of them; cull them. Remove the ones that are scenery and landscape. Keep the faces and people photos. Write metadata on the back (who, where). Frame a few, keep the rest in shoeboxes to look at every 5 years.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#57

> I can't really see there's much demand for Java 1.3, or Dreamweaver 4. Designate one bookshelf as your "memory shelf". Keep the books on the languages you learned the most from or that remind you of your best (or most horrible) projects, and place them on that shelf. Display it prominently, and it will be become a conversation starter for every nerd that comes to your home. "OMG, I haven't thought about Dreamweaver…

Books are so heavy. If you move often, they can be a real burden, especially if they are no longer used. If you keep them as a conversation starter, try this alternative method. https://youtu.be/UqLTU9uFlPA?list=PLsgvviE9c9fBEPvopDnHcYhyN... .

Or maybe just posters?

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#58

> I can't really see there's much demand for Java 1.3, or Dreamweaver 4. Designate one bookshelf as your "memory shelf". Keep the books on the languages you learned the most from or that remind you of your best (or most horrible) projects, and place them on that shelf. Display it prominently, and it will be become a conversation starter for every nerd that comes to your home. "OMG, I haven't thought about Dreamweaver…

Right next to your copy of HoTMetaL Pro.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are many legal archival websites out there. The way I see it, is that I am merely transferring the informational data that I already own from one medium to another. I am not 'pirating' anything that I didn't already own before. Those books that I couldn't replace, I kept. A lot of cassettes, vinyl LPs and CDs I made copies of myself from my own media. That took an investment of my time in order to save my space…

I went through this years ago and have some regrets. I don’t regret getting rid of all physical items, but some. Here’s why: 1. Album art and lyrics… gone. Would have loved to share these with my son 2. Digital books can’t be skimmed. I have a physical copy of Turbo Pascal above a toilet and love to skim it while doing the business. 3. Photos. We have tens of thousands of digital photos. The gems get lost in this mes…

Album Art is still around. I keep that separately from the audio. I use it also as a record of the order of tracks on an LP.

2. Digital books can’t be skimmed.

Very true. That's probably what I miss most too.

But I see that as an offset. Many books I've had that just sat there year after year on the shelf, getting yellower and dustier by the day.

Did I mention that I'm an 'information hoarder'? I still have files on my archive disk from 40 years ago.

Re: Ask HN: What to do with old computer books?

#60
post #46

Donate to the libraries.

I tried this and the library was not interested (as in, refused to take a look at the books cover).

I went to a different one when one refused. Libraries hold book sales from time to time. Find one that does book sales. They would appreciate the donation.
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