Pretty unfortunate and disrespectful. Sort of emblematic of Australian bogan culture however. For some reason Australian teenagers are among the worst in this regard. As someone that grew up in country Australia this really doesn't surprise me at all. Contributing factor is that racism against indigenous Australians is somewhat fueled by the same sort of rhetoric that became popular in the Trump election campaign. No…
Vandals destroy 30k-year-old indigenous cave drawings in Australia
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Re: Vandals destroy 30k-year-old indigenous cave drawings in Australia
#52Pretty unfortunate and disrespectful. Sort of emblematic of Australian bogan culture however. For some reason Australian teenagers are among the worst in this regard. As someone that grew up in country Australia this really doesn't surprise me at all. Contributing factor is that racism against indigenous Australians is somewhat fueled by the same sort of rhetoric that became popular in the Trump election campaign. No…
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#53I have a friend on a property with cave art here in the hunter valley of Australia. We really don't do enough to preserve it at all. He's responsible and ensures no harm but it's still weird to own private land with 10k+ year old art and have no one really give a damn about it. Compare it to European attitudes, eg. Lascaux where they closed off the cave completely and only allow tourists near the modern reconstructio…
Is it possible that the teenagers did not know that the "scratchings" (for lack of a better term) were actually ancient and wise and sacred and enlightened aboriginal art?
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#54> First Peoples Rock Art
covered by Later People's Rock Art.
Re: Vandals destroy 30k-year-old indigenous cave drawings in Australia
#55My suspicion is that whoever did this was emboldened when none of the climate change vandals who did similar things to paintings in museums got any real punishment. If they all got a year or two in prison instead, I don't think this would have happened.
The climate change protestors did nothing wrong. We desperately need more attention on climate change or the human race will die out . There is literally nothing else anywhere near as important. Literally everything matters less. To equate those two things is disingenuous and offensive.
They also did nothing right. Their stunt is 100% useless.
> We desperately need more attention on climate change or the human race will die out.
Yah, that's not even remotely true. Who is making you think that?
There could be disruption, people will have to change what is farmed where, people might need to move, animals will have different ranges.
But human race die out? Not in the slightest.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
The climate change protestors did nothing wrong. We desperately need more attention on climate change or the human race will die out . There is literally nothing else anywhere near as important. Literally everything matters less. To equate those two things is disingenuous and offensive.
I also agree that we desperately need more attention on climate change. In addition to that, to my knowledge no art was actually damaged by climate change protestors (who mostly projected soup on a glass, not directly on paintings...)
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/climate-protesters-campai...
Is that really the kind of attention we need to the problem? Some lunatics destroying master pieces?
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Artwork such as this is not just important from an artistic perspective, it's important from an archeological, historical, and paleontological perspective. There is a lot we have learned from ancient rock art and probably a lot that we have yet to learn. For example, by exampining the kinds of animals in ancient cave paintings paleontologists have been able to learn certain details about the appearance and behavior o…
Considering the security established around it and the knowledge of what it was, I find it hard to believe that enough photos, samples, etc, weren't taken before this vandalism to have gained or have the capacity to gain any knowledge these drawings may provide.
There's a parellel in the early expeditions to Pompeii or Troy which did a lot to destroy the sites in question and destroyed a lot of knowledge in the process.
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#58My suspicion is that whoever did this was emboldened when none of the climate change vandals who did similar things to paintings in museums got any real punishment. If they all got a year or two in prison instead, I don't think this would have happened.
The climate change protestors did nothing wrong. We desperately need more attention on climate change or the human race will die out . There is literally nothing else anywhere near as important. Literally everything matters less. To equate those two things is disingenuous and offensive.
Imo renewable energy and and EVs are worthwhile because of air pollution, but we can do without the fearmongering about the world ending. Historically every time people have done that it was a load of BS
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#59Pretty unfortunate and disrespectful. Sort of emblematic of Australian bogan culture however. For some reason Australian teenagers are among the worst in this regard. As someone that grew up in country Australia this really doesn't surprise me at all. Contributing factor is that racism against indigenous Australians is somewhat fueled by the same sort of rhetoric that became popular in the Trump election campaign. No…
Aboriginal and Torres Straight islanders have experienced systemic, soul crushing racism for 300 years. It seems unfair to expect them to be cordial and have a nice discussion about it all.
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#60Does anyone have a full/clear image or a before and after? The best one I was able to find is the one in the article.
Maybe one of us who lives nearby can drive over and take a few snapshots for the “after” pictures. It sounds like they let anyone just walk on in.