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Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Re: Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Post by fsociety »

AlexTWithBeard wrote: post #165
ShredKazoo wrote: post #136

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This Swedish website actually claims that tech is a problem area for Sweden: https://sweden.se/life/equality/gender-equality There's a link to this report: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5501a836e4b0472e6124f... "Every third woman who responded to the survey, sent out by Allbright to employees at the tech companies, reports that she has been discriminated against"

> "Every third woman who responded to the survey, sent out by Allbright to employees at the tech companies, reports that she has been discriminated against" Which - putting my boring hat on - doesn't mean she was discriminated against.

So.. some person on an Internet forum is better equipped to determine if it is discrimination than the person who experienced it? Good luck.

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Post by mhuffman »

interactivecode wrote: post #96
kqr wrote: post #45

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A bricklayer works with things. Daycare staff work with people. These are very clear-cut. Then there are a lot of points along that continuum -- nurses and HR reps work mostly with people. Economists a little of both. Software engineers and carpenters mostly with things. We may not agree on a complete ordering but we will get reasonably close to each other, I suppose.

For jobs like nurses, the “people” they work with are not people they are things. The people they actually work with are their colleagues.

Some might say that both the patients and their colleagues are people!

Re: Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Post by dgoodell »

ss108 wrote: post #210
heavenlyblue wrote: post #200

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Please tell me how many men willingly (having had other choice) would go doing road works :) Or working at a coal mine on thaf matter.

I have helped defend claims brought by coal miners against their employers, and, while I obviously am restrained from giving specifics, a number of the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work in mines, yet they persisted in working in mines.

It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that people with skills that would permit them to work in mines, work in mines.

Re: Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Post by ss108 »

dgoodell wrote: post #213
ss108 wrote: post #210

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I have helped defend claims brought by coal miners against their employers, and, while I obviously am restrained from giving specifics, a number of the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work in mines, yet they persisted in working in mines.

It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that people with skills that would permit them to work in mines, work in mines.

? Ok. See the post to which I was replying.

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Post by kybernetikos »

ss108 wrote: post #214
dgoodell wrote: post #213

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It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that people with skills that would permit them to work in mines, work in mines.

? Ok. See the post to which I was replying.

> a number of the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work in mines, yet they persisted in working in mines.

Do you perhaps mean that the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work other than in mines, but persisted in working in mines?

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Post by DanBC »

sshine wrote: post #179
null_object wrote: post #140

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> Are you saying that Sweden is a sexist society? Sweden is such an interesting paradox: womens’ rights to work in different fields and (mostly) on an equal footing are protected in law, and (in my experience) in practice. And yet in many ways I find it generally the most gender-divided country I’ve experienced, and I’ve even lived in countries that most people would consider very sexist, like the UK and Spain. There…

> it always gladdens my heart to see a female roadworker Sure, but a female coalminer?

Are you saying there aren't female coal miners? What do you think coal miners do?

Re: Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Post by ss108 »

dgoodell wrote: post #213
ss108 wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have helped defend claims brought by coal miners against their employers, and, while I obviously am restrained from giving specifics, a number of the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work in mines, yet they persisted in working in mines.

It doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that people with skills that would permit them to work in mines, work in mines.

Oh, sorry, other poster pointed out my error, lol

Was typing on phone

Re: Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Post by ss108 »

kybernetikos wrote: post #215
ss108 wrote: post #214

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? Ok. See the post to which I was replying.

> a number of the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work in mines, yet they persisted in working in mines. Do you perhaps mean that the miners were not without skills that would permit them to work other than in mines, but persisted in working in mines?

Yeah, haha, thanks for correcting.

E.g. some ppl are electricians, but opt to work in mines (presumably for higher pay, but IDK)

Re: Women like working with people, men like working with things, all over the world

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Post by samdunham »

tgv wrote: post #103
givemeethekeys wrote: post #63

The more of these male vs female preferences articles I see, the less I find myself caring.

I think that's ok. We should care about the well-being of people (and nature), not about the way they actually live their life. If someone wants to work in health care or education, or rather in carpentry or nuclear physics let them. The alternative is some kind of politically motivated utilitarianism. And certainly don't pay too much attention of these studies. People treat them as gospel, but they aren't. They're m…

They really shouldn't require much thought in the end. Don't artificially keep people out of a particular profession. Don't artificially force people into a particular profession. Let people have the opportunity to do the job they want to do and call it a day.
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