Oh dear, dear EU, please show some teeth on this matter, god help us if you do not. The EU is the only place on earth having kinda sensitive big data/privacy laws and enforcements thereof. I am familiar enough with data aggregators like lexis nexis, you do not want to be there or end up there without knowing or without having an option for removal of the entries. Do not share anything, this paper speaks of fingerprin…
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#202Whether it's good local privacy laws in your country or a good privacy-respecting TOS from a company, both are basically worthless when a bigger entity comes barging into the picture. So your government collects biometric data but passes laws promising not to misuse it... you may very well find that those promises are worth less than dirt when a country with leverage over your own starts making demands that your gove…
This is very correct. However, I would amend your solution: the solution is modern encryption and open source. These two in conjunction allow you to verify trust. ToS is like HR: they both exist to protect only the company.
What are you going to do about it? Call your senators, who are now in love with Facebook for giving the federal government access to these previously private communications?
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#203Whether it's good local privacy laws in your country or a good privacy-respecting TOS from a company, both are basically worthless when a bigger entity comes barging into the picture. So your government collects biometric data but passes laws promising not to misuse it... you may very well find that those promises are worth less than dirt when a country with leverage over your own starts making demands that your gove…
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#204Are there any folks here to whom it is starting to dawn what is really going on here; a transatlantic prison planet where you can do nothing without your prison wardens, formerly known as politicians, bureaucrats, and generally awful people knowing more about you than you do and being able to terrorize and torment you if you oppose or inconvenience them?
Re: US Government demands direct police access to European biometric data [pdf]
#205Oh dear, dear EU, please show some teeth on this matter, god help us if you do not. The EU is the only place on earth having kinda sensitive big data/privacy laws and enforcements thereof. I am familiar enough with data aggregators like lexis nexis, you do not want to be there or end up there without knowing or without having an option for removal of the entries. Do not share anything, this paper speaks of fingerprin…
> The EU is the only place on earth having kinda sensitive big data/privacy laws and enforcements thereof
Only for corporations, not for governments. EU already has mandatory ID cards with biometric data (fingerprints), while AFAIK there is no such systematic collection of biometric data in US.
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Why would we have to give two damns about American demands, I don't see that having any chance.
Because sovereignty ends at borders. Europeans want to vacation in the US. The US demands biometric authentication upon crossing the border. So you either give them that data or the US stops letting Europeans in. And I doubt Europe is going to be any better at not demanding biometric data than the US is, because Europe has the same underlying incentives to do so (i.e. a restrictive immigration system, a large portion…
Will the relationship being more difficult if not yielding to the demands? Ok then. We are not made of cotton candy to melt in a drop of rain that easily when some difficulty comes along, especially if it is a bureaucracy thingy. The vacations will be a bit more difficult - for those attracted by the US instead of beautiful spots elsewhere. Business relations too, of course, but that one has double edge actually.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would we have to give two damns about American demands, I don't see that having any chance.
I am not sure why this is downvoted, the guy is exactly right. I would have thought HN is more on the small government political spectrum, it appears this does not count for foreign policy?
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
> (1) find how many European military bases there are on US soil To do what? Counter the Canadian threat to US American territorial integrity? Prevent war between California and ethnic Nevadans? Monitor unmanaged flows of migrants from unstable regions? Hmm, well maybe that one. But really, one of the great blessings of the US is a lack of any home-front excitement, which makes this comparison pretty silly. Not that…
Right, so what for are the US military bases on European soil then? (Please spare me the part about protecting Europe from outside threats story). Would they leave if we asked nicely enough? Like Pretty please ? Would it really take just that?