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The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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Looking at Google Maps it appears several other buildings in the area also straddle the border. The reporter mentioned an insurance dispute in passing, but it would be interesting to have more details on how it all works from a legal perspective. Presumably they get two different property tax bills. Are two different building codes enforced depending on which part of the building you're in?

I’d imagine many of the same considerations come into play when a structure straddles a state line in the US. I wonder how that’s handled?

There was a building in the outer Washington, DC, suburbs that straddled a county line. Somehow or another its status became subject to a vote twenty-five or thirty years ago--though the electorate eligible to vote on this must have been tiny.

And I did once meet a programmer who lived or had live in a house straddling the New York/New Jersey line NW of New York City. I didn't ask about the tax status.

Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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What if their house straddles the border, and they work from home? Are they not allowed to have their computer in one side of the house? Who monitors this?

Technically they would probably have to be dual citizens, or a citizen of one country and permanent resident of the other, to not break laws. And then they'd have to file taxes in both countries. No idea if it's enforced, but if it were, it would probably be such a pain that people would just stop buying/building houses that straddle the border. Why complicate things unnecessarily with a house split between two count…

> they would probably have to be dual citizens

Not at all true, it sounds like you're just guessing about what how you think things should work?

> And then they'd have to file taxes in both countries.

Not at all true again, regardless of where your house is, even if you're a dual citizen. The US is the only country that claims to be able to tax the earnings of its citizens outside of its borders.

Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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>Now you need a passport and the border agents are often incredibly hostile. Are the Canadian agents hostile as well, or only the American ones? >The people are super nice, the government... not so much. The Americans that tend to go into law enforcement jobs are not super nice people, quite the opposite really. It's really eye-opening going to other countries outside the US and interacting with cops and other law en…

The Canadian agents are comically friendly, but that's because I'm coming back into my own country, where I'm a citizen, and, y'know, they have to let me in. Cuz it's my country. I hear from Americans that they're often not very nice , but it sounds not nearly as terrible as "please stand in this room for an hour AND DON'T TOUCH YOUR PHONE while we tear your car apart for no reason because, I dunno... a hunch or some…

I've experienced asshole power-tripping border guards on both sides. They're much less frequent on the Canadian side, and I have a US passport, but they exist.

Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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The Canadian agents are comically friendly, but that's because I'm coming back into my own country, where I'm a citizen, and, y'know, they have to let me in. Cuz it's my country. I hear from Americans that they're often not very nice , but it sounds not nearly as terrible as "please stand in this room for an hour AND DON'T TOUCH YOUR PHONE while we tear your car apart for no reason because, I dunno... a hunch or some…

>The Canadian agents are comically friendly, but that's because I'm coming back into my own country, where I'm a citizen, and, y'know, they have to let me in. Cuz it's my country. Returning to your own country doesn't mean the agents have to be friendly to you. I'm American and the agents there are not friendly when I return. They don't just do it to non-citizens; they're assholes to everyone. Of course, there's a lo…

Purely anecdotal and third-hand and a few years old by now, but this trip report to Estcourt (another slightly unusual border situation) also bears this out:

https://mrgris.com/travel/blog/labrador/3/

Quote from the Canadian border guard about the neighbouring US customs officials: "ah yes, they have a... different frame of mind"

Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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I like this log used to protect the border: https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0108844,-73.3349375,3a,75y,1...

While the border looks extremely porous, the reality is that it is heavily monitored. You will be met by the police or border patrol if you cross in the wrong place or even if you simply loiter near the border. EDIT: In response to the skepticism, here is a source: https://www.buzzfeed.com/ishmaeldaro/us-canada-border-photos This Photographer Spent Three Years Documenting The Canada-U.S. Border Along the way, Rutkaus…

I wonder whether that photography project was in any way related to this one (https://clui.org/projects/united-divide), or whether through a coincidence two different people came up with the same idea in roughly the same timeframe…

Re: The US-Canada border cuts through the Haskell Free Library and Opera House

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically they would probably have to be dual citizens, or a citizen of one country and permanent resident of the other, to not break laws. And then they'd have to file taxes in both countries. No idea if it's enforced, but if it were, it would probably be such a pain that people would just stop buying/building houses that straddle the border. Why complicate things unnecessarily with a house split between two count…

> they would probably have to be dual citizens Not at all true, it sounds like you're just guessing about what how you think things should work? > And then they'd have to file taxes in both countries. Not at all true again, regardless of where your house is, even if you're a dual citizen. The US is the only country that claims to be able to tax the earnings of its citizens outside of its borders.

"The US is the only country that claims to be able to tax the earnings of its citizens outside of its borders."

China, Eritrea tax worldwide income of non-resident citizens.

A bunch of other countries do it in limited circumstances, e.g.

- French citizen living in Monaco

- Some countries tax non-resident citizens living in tax havens

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