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Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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From https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1607719007892738050 , written while Tesla was at $123.15: While the markets have been closed, two major stories about Tesla have broken. A. Tesla is shutting down factories because demand is plummeting. B. Musk praised a truly insane Russian propaganda tweet, predicting the fall of the west She expects Tesla to fall below $100 by 1/1. It seems notable that the price of used T…

What factories are they closing down?

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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Also, notably META is very strong recently. Same for Netflix. Shows how the whims of market are always changing.

Eh, they're not in freefall any more. Very strong is probably an overstatement since they're still down over 65% YTD and even more from ATHs. I'm a big Meta (stock) fan though. I think they're insanely undervalued at the moment (says the guy holding a bunch of their stock that's down close to 50% all together lol)

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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Probably closer to fair value now, still overpriced though.

Funny enough I think it's actually undervalued now. Tesla has bought up all the mining rights for the minerals required to ramp up battery production and will likely be the only EV manufacturer that's not supply constrained for the next decade. I'm still not bought in yet, probably a lot more room for it to crater.

Might be actually, I didn't actually look at the DCF. Just eyeballing their PE and their growth didn't make it attractive enough to me. I feel like it should be abundantly clear.

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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From https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1607719007892738050 , written while Tesla was at $123.15: While the markets have been closed, two major stories about Tesla have broken. A. Tesla is shutting down factories because demand is plummeting. B. Musk praised a truly insane Russian propaganda tweet, predicting the fall of the west She expects Tesla to fall below $100 by 1/1. It seems notable that the price of used T…

Musk was very clearly mocking the propaganda tweet, not praising it. I wouldn't put much confidence in the predictions of someone who didn't realise that.

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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"Tesla has plummeted 56.5% over the past three months through Friday, while the S&P 500 has gained 5.4%"

Much of Tesla's value was propped up by the personal brand of Elon Musk. And he has done significant damage to that brand, over the last few months, as he's courted a far-right extremist following. That has changed how most people look at him. Certainly many of the people who buy Tesla's are a bit left-of-center, and don't want to buy from a guy who they perceive as being far-right. The question is why Musk felt the need to be so public with his views. Every single CEO of a car company is a Republican, but they are not so loud about it. Why didn't Musk simply act like other CEOs and keep his conservative politics quiet and somewhat hidden? For a CEO, keeping one's politics hidden is the norm for a good reason. That Musk prioritizes self-expression over good business practices suggests he is currently in a mental space that would be appropriate for an artist but not a CEO. If he wants to engage in self-expression, he has the money that he can retire from his jobs and devote the rest of his life to advocacy. But it's a mistake to combine advocacy with being a CEO.

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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From https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1607719007892738050 , written while Tesla was at $123.15: While the markets have been closed, two major stories about Tesla have broken. A. Tesla is shutting down factories because demand is plummeting. B. Musk praised a truly insane Russian propaganda tweet, predicting the fall of the west She expects Tesla to fall below $100 by 1/1. It seems notable that the price of used T…

(a) isn't even remotely true. They paused production in Shanghai on a few lines to upgrade them to the new Model 3 and Y.

Brianna Wu is a permabear who pretends to be a journalist and spreads disinfo without verifying.

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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$LCID down 70%. Elon: "they are not long for this world" $TSLA down 70%. Elon: "unfavorable market conditions"

It'd make more sense to compare cash flow. Stock price doesn't necessarily say much about companies' survival prospects.

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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From https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1607719007892738050 , written while Tesla was at $123.15: While the markets have been closed, two major stories about Tesla have broken. A. Tesla is shutting down factories because demand is plummeting. B. Musk praised a truly insane Russian propaganda tweet, predicting the fall of the west She expects Tesla to fall below $100 by 1/1. It seems notable that the price of used T…

I think B only matters as a signal of leadership instability. And I think it tells us nothing new about Mr. Musk that we didn't already know. So I think B is probably not really a factor. A is plenty enough to explain the market behaviour.

Wait, you guys know that was a joke, right? Is it okay to not do due diligence on claims because we don’t like a guy?

(Which isn’t to say it makes the market feel better, but come on…)

Re: Tesla stock falls again, toward longest losing streak in more than 4 years

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From https://twitter.com/BriannaWu/status/1607719007892738050 , written while Tesla was at $123.15: While the markets have been closed, two major stories about Tesla have broken. A. Tesla is shutting down factories because demand is plummeting. B. Musk praised a truly insane Russian propaganda tweet, predicting the fall of the west She expects Tesla to fall below $100 by 1/1. It seems notable that the price of used T…

What factories are they closing down?

I believe she's referring to Shanghai, which is apparently being shut down for a week.
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