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How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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And they haven't stopped agitating. And probably won't stop. Which makes me wonder: with the degree of weaponization of the internet on the side of the anti-vaxxers will the next pandemic be 'the big one'? Enough people that refuse vaccination and you are looking at an entirely different probable outcome. Here in NL a small army of foaming-at-the-mouth conspiracy theorists did their utmost to undermine the vaccinatio…

> This is a worrisome development. Governments are working with private corporations to promote misinformation and silence real information and you’re worried about…anti vaxxers? I can maybe steel man a utilitarian stance for this position though I’m afraid it’s weak to “surely the lepers won’t eat my face”.

> promote misinformation and silence real information

"misinformation" and "real information" as rationally believed at the time or only with 20/20 hindsight? It's an important distinction. Also, what about the recommendations that did stand the test of time, or the misinformation about vaccine risks and alternative treatments that was rightly suppressed because it was false and harmful? If this is to be anything but an exercise in anti-authoritarian self-congratulation, people need to own up to their own mistakes as well.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I think the longest lasting legacy of covid will be the distrust it created for big government, big pharma, and big tech.

I don't know. It should (and I think has) increase distrust in social media and big tech/gov but distrust in pharma? I don't know. I'm still waiting for everyone to drop dead from vaccine related injuries (I've paid this more earnest attention than most people this glib at least) — most people, I think correctly for the most part, regard the nu-antivax thing that came about during covid to basically be the realm of i…

Many people felt they couldn't even question the pharma/big gov narrative without being branded "internet weirdos and agitators" or anti-vax.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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> This comment gets a lot up upvotes until it gets "flagged" and deleted This is because your comment is bog standard disinformation. It tickles the groupthink narrative about "lockdowns", even though "lockdowns" did not exist in the US beyond a few counties in California.

That's news to this Washington state resident, who couldn't eat indoors at restaurants or send my kids to in-person school through most of 2020.

You could still get in your car and drive wherever you wanted, right? There just wasn't much to do. People were dying and we didn't know anything about the illness, though, so that wasn't that bad.

It's like claiming you were a prisoner of war because the theme park was closed for maintenance when you wanted to go.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I think the longest lasting legacy of covid will be the distrust it created for big government, big pharma, and big tech.

> the distrust it created for big government, big pharma, and big tech. No worries. The people will forget it just like they forgot the Iraq War, the Avandia drug scandal, the Three Mile island, the Mexican gulf oil leak, Iran-Contra and everything else. They will vote in the election. The administration will change. And despite the incoming administrations will be staffed fully by the SAME people who staffed the adm…

Nothing happened at TMI

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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The answer to this seems to be deciding YouTube videos are authoritative. Or other completely random sources which don't offer any credible evidence that their narrative is any better than the mainstream sources.

Most people are going to believe what they see on their screens. Therefore, it’s important to the regime to influence what gets amplified or suppressed.

So, in your book, the US is under a regime now? A junta?

I belive actual underlings of oppressive regimes around the world would beg to differ.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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Related: there isn’t enough discussion on actual executive decision making. The experts are supposed to give their inputs, but the buck stops with the executives who are tasked with balancing various trade-offs(including the inherent uncertainty in faulty/noisy scientific models). https://www.slowboring.com/p/fda-cost-benefit There never is one single “right” decision, the balancing of trade-offs is inherently politi…

> This fetishization of the Science or villainization of CDC/Fauci are completely misguided Fair point. Doesn’t mean that people who pointed out inconsistencies in CDC’s data or referred papers of different opinions should be banned or villainfied, either

Of course.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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> This comment gets a lot up upvotes until it gets "flagged" and deleted This is because your comment is bog standard disinformation. It tickles the groupthink narrative about "lockdowns", even though "lockdowns" did not exist in the US beyond a few counties in California.

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Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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Were an individual legitimately trying to make a point, they would come up with an example not already in the set.

We've decided that speech that is harmful is not allowed. Encouraging people to not get a vaccine we decided is harmful speech. Like telling you to kill your self, or the yelling fire in a theater. Are you not OK with that example of speech though? Dangerous speech seems to make you uncomfortable no?

> Encouraging people to not get a vaccine we decided is harmful speech.

Who is "we"? I sure as hell haven't decided that. The supreme court hasn't either, unlike in the examples you mention.

And my only discomfort with your example sprung from its severe lack of adroitness. My prior response could be roughly translated to "try harder".

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