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How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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post #73

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For me it gave a big distrust of conspiracy theorists and reflexive contrarians, due to things like the ivermectin saga.

Ivermectin Saga? You distrusted the 'conspiracy theorists' who took a perfectly safe drug that had been taken in the billions of doses a year prior? It was known as a possible protease inhibitor and was very safe to take. Where was the misinformation in what I just posted?

More convincing people they didn't need the vaccine because of one or two miracle studies that had huge red flags and overly slanted their metastudy. Brett Weinstein holding the "emergency podcast," which was always really about self-promotion.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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This is what we get when we expect corporations to police speech, and when governments pressure them to do it. We really would be better off with no censorship. Even allowing obvious conspiracy theories and fake news is better than trying to police the truth and getting it wrong. When moderators get it wrong even one time they lose trust forever and give the conspiracy theorists even more ammo — in some cases by maki…

You are mistaking social media companies as platforms for speech. The are not. They are for profit companies that must police their content to attain maximum ad revenue. They will curate, filter and edit content solely for that purpose. I don’t know why everyone is so up in arms about what Twitter does on their website. If it vanished tomorrow, I’d be fine. Most of us knew what was going in the 90’s just fine.

They are absolutely platforms for speech and in many cases they are the main source of news for people. Facebook and Twitter matter more than CNN.

By the way, all the newspapers and mainstream media that were displaced by social media are almost all ad-based, for-profit enterprises too.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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post #7

Great article to read if you want to know how the "sausage was made" at Twitter. I think most people knew it was an absolute dumpster fire, but it's even worse than that. As expected, the folks doing the policing of "disinformation" were entirely unqualified for the role (I love the banning of the Harvard School of Medicine epidemiologist who said "vaccines are for people at risk" - apparently the folks at Twitter kn…

it's a hard tradeoff between false positives and false negatives. it's like being a soccer referee or a judge, you can be almost perfect but the screwups are all anyone remembers. short of putting everyone away for life, some convict is going to get out and do something, and some tabloid is going to question why this person was on the street. You do the best you can subject to the Constitution, the laws, and common s…

If it's such a hard tradeoff then maybe don't make the trade in the first place. Just don't censor speech. Problem solved.

Insisting on censoring speech in this case is what's known as a Hegelian dialectic: there is a problem, we need to solve the problem, here's how we solve the problem.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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post #55

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> insane conspiracy bullshit If it's proven true, is it still conspiracy?

The biggest revelation from the previous dumps were that Joe Biden's team requested Twitter remove posts of Hunter Biden's nude body from the site, and they obliged. This is content moderation and completely reasonable. The latest revelation is that Twitter tried to keep antivax shit off the site. Everyone paying attention knew that was the case already, and was the right thing to do (Hacker News should do that, too)…

Let’s change the roles, dude distributes Ivanka’s nudes, for all intents and purposes it’s revenge porn.

Which social media would not block the distribution? NONE. There are very clear laws around revenge porn.

Now, what makes Hunter’s penis special besides the Republican obsession is beyond me.

Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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I am a conspiracy theorist[1], and this was all well known since before we even did '2 weeks to slow the spread'. I'm just glad some of the mainstream folks are figuring it out now. [1]: The term "conspiracy theory" is itself the subject of a conspiracy theory, which claims the term was popularized by the CIA in order to discredit conspiratorial believers, particularly critics of the Warren Commission, by making them…

Indeed, I’m lead to believe Trump forced us to lock down. It’s good that now under the current president we no longer have lockdowns or restrictions.

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Re: How Twitter moderated the Covid debate

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I think the longest lasting legacy of covid will be the distrust it created for big government, big pharma, and big tech.

I am a conspiracy theorist[1], and this was all well known since before we even did '2 weeks to slow the spread'. I'm just glad some of the mainstream folks are figuring it out now. [1]: The term "conspiracy theory" is itself the subject of a conspiracy theory, which claims the term was popularized by the CIA in order to discredit conspiratorial believers, particularly critics of the Warren Commission, by making them…

> '2 weeks to slow the spread'

Wasn't that to prevent over-crowding of hospitals? Were hospitals not over-crowded?

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