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You can move towards management if you get the big picture and only code things you like.
One of my managers in the past would attend meetings all day and strategize. If he found a project he liked, he'd delegate someone to attend his meetings.
He figured out a way to keep himself sane.
If sitting down is bad, and I agree that it is, what about a stand-up desk or a treadmill desk or just getting up every 30 to 60 minutes to walk around?
If being alone is the problem, then what about switching into a role like professional services, customer support, sales engineering, etc. where you're technical but you're working with customers?
What do you like about coding? Building the whole project or the key parts? You can move towards management if you get the big picture and only code things you like. One of my managers in the past would attend meetings all day and strategize. If he found a project he liked, he'd delegate someone to attend his meetings. He figured out a way to keep himself sane.
This is terrible advice.
you hate X but somehow you can be successful in leading, motivating, mentoring, and developing people who do X all day.
This is the cancer that infected big tech. A class of professional managers who provide little to no value but don’t want to leave because the grift is so easy.
As for college, I can only speak to my personal experience. I went to college at 26 and regret it. I often refer to it as my ‘lost years’
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You could also become a digital nomad. The easy way is to just fuck off and leave the States (I assume bc GI bill ref). You can tramp around EU for 90 days without getting deported, no questions asked. If after 90 days you’re still unsatisfied, you could move onto Asia. The cost of living in EU is far cheaper than it is here, so if you can manage to just stash your stuff in a Pod for awhile, you’ll basically be on the level cost wise.
Why do this? You can keep the lucrative job (assuming you can find a good place to take meetings). You can force yourself to meet new people, you can absorb culture, and you can probably find a coworking/coffee shop in most cities.
What do you like about coding? Building the whole project or the key parts? You can move towards management if you get the big picture and only code things you like. One of my managers in the past would attend meetings all day and strategize. If he found a project he liked, he'd delegate someone to attend his meetings. He figured out a way to keep himself sane.
> You can move towards management if you get the big picture and only code things you like. This is terrible advice. you hate X but somehow you can be successful in leading, motivating, mentoring, and developing people who do X all day. This is the cancer that infected big tech. A class of professional managers who provide little to no value but don’t want to leave because the grift is so easy.
Management allows you to control what you want to work on. OP wants enjoyment. Control provides it.
In fact OP would be the total opposite of normal management.
I'd say your mentality is toxic. People who can't code can ideate. You don't need to know X to be able to lead X. Many programmers actually suck at thinking outside the box and I'd sit on calls where nobody could figure it out. A business manager articulats the problem and it's solved in an hour.
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> You can move towards management if you get the big picture and only code things you like. This is terrible advice. you hate X but somehow you can be successful in leading, motivating, mentoring, and developing people who do X all day. This is the cancer that infected big tech. A class of professional managers who provide little to no value but don’t want to leave because the grift is so easy.
Dudes a coder who doesn't want to sit at a box all day. I didn't go into programming because it just feels boring doing what he said. Management allows you to control what you want to work on. OP wants enjoyment. Control provides it. In fact OP would be the total opposite of normal management. I'd say your mentality is toxic. People who can't code can ideate. You don't need to know X to be able to lead X. Many progra…
Not true. You can set direction and vision only to the extent they align with your company and leaderships goals. If you fundamentally can’t stand what your subordinates do, I doubt you can successfully influence other leaders let alone be one yourself.
Thinking that being a manager will give you “control” couldnt be further from truth. Going into the role seeking control will have disastrous consequences, if not for you, then the people who you “control”. You have far less control and you need to motivate people to properly deliver on the thing which in this case you seem to despise.
> I'd say your mentality is toxic.
Attacking me personally doesn’t validate your argument and does opposite. Leave emotions out and stick with merits of your perspective. Thanks.
You might be able to apply directly or you could try one of the bootcamp type programs they have around[0]. Try not to spend too much money on one (preferably zero).
Fortunately tech sales pays about the same as dev work, in some cases even more.
Whatever you choose good luck!