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Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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What a sad, empty, and profoundly uninformed view of the collective experience of humanity.

Yeah, thank you for putting it so well. The poster above is a real live example of the "don't help poor kids to get enough food to eat, it will just ruin them". Everyone shouldn't have medical care, they'll be ruined!

Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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What a callous way to look at the world.

A single opinion on a single subject is not a sweeping view of the entire world. Despite being treated as disposable trash by the world I actually have unflattering but overall optimistic view of the world. I believe people are mostly good but more selfish. All these problems are not from lack of help but lack of personal empowerment. The world has this deranged flow to it lately that people "need" help on the most b…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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> Put so many shirts that you can’t see and barely move? Don't argue the metaphor. I know that you understand the general idea. Yep, "My" solution is "put this clothes in your own body instead to burn them, and will warm you for a much much, longer time". Hardly original or controversial. If the options are ridiculous but alive or stilish and frozen, seems an easy choice

What in earth does any of that even mean? What the fuck is an “alive” or “stilish” option. You seem to be writing complete nonsense. Did you have a stroke?

> What is an “alive” or “stilish” option

alive means: having life, living

stilish (should be written stylish in fact, my bad) means: conforming to the current fashion

Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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> genetic-exacerbated substance abuse Could you expand on this a bit? Not a concept I am familiar with

> genetic-exacerbated substance abuse >Could you expand on this a bit? Not a concept I am familiar with Its profitable to pretend that personal choices have nothing to do with drug addiction. Then you can "treat" them forever collecting a monthly check from the government. I say this having grown up in a drug house and leaving as a 16yo teenager with nothing. I already regret this comment not because it isn't true bu…

> Its profitable to pretend that personal choices have nothing to do with drug addiction

That is true, and there are systemic issues we should fix.

However it is also true that some people will latch on to anything — “personal choices”, “systemic issues” — to justify callousness and lack of compassion. It’s an ugly way to live, always looking for some justification to spit on those who are in already in trouble.

Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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It this stage inherited “genetic trauma” is a fringe scientific theory.

Epigenetics is not fringe science - you inherit the methylation patterns from your parents' genes. Two people with the same genes can (in principle) have very different methylation patterns & thus differences in gene expression that result in changes in behaviour. None of this is controversial.

That’s about parent’s environmental exposure affecting gene expression in their children. The notion that this can be passed down over multiple generations, where the parent’s generation wasn’t directly exposed to the environmental conditions, is fringe.

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What in earth does any of that even mean? What the fuck is an “alive” or “stilish” option. You seem to be writing complete nonsense. Did you have a stroke?

> What is an “alive” or “stilish” option alive means: having life, living stilish (should be written stylish in fact, my bad) means: conforming to the current fashion

I’m very well alive means in a vacuum, but what makes an option (in this case I’m assuming an article of clothing , but it’s hard to tell as this seems to be mostly unintelligible ramble) “alive” as opposed to perhaps “dead”.

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I knew about the alcoholism rates, but had always assumed it was a socio-economic / situational driven thing. I understand that historically it was used in some sense to control and indeed damage the Native Americans by the colonists? To what extent alcohol was completely new etc I do not know

It is very hard to tease genetic factors out from socio-economic ones, but IMHO it seems plausible that a population that has been exposed to alcohol for a long time (hundreds of generations) may have been better selected for higher tolerance than a population that has been exposed only recently (a few dozen generations, and with modern technology making selection pressure lower in general).

18th century was only 7 generations ago, not "a few dozen".

Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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This triggered two thoughts for me. First, how much of a killer the cold is. We've moved on from "global warming" to "climate change" language but there are a lot of places in the world that would be grateful for a few degree temperature rise (such as Latvia where I am from). Today, cold kills hundreds of thousands of people a year, while "heat deaths" are limited to geriatrics in the "first world." Second, preparedn…

Heat is less likely to kill you directly if you aren't forced to do physical work without any protection. However, tens of thousands of square kilometers of agricultural land is turned to desert in Central Europe with every single degree the yearly average temperature rises. Droughts are decimating crops made for prices skyrocket even before the war in Ukraine. That has some harder to attribute but none of the less s…

Interesting, can you explain more about this type of insulation?

Re: Thousands trapped on Pine Ridge burn clothes for warmth in wake of storm

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Good options were available? What if there weren't? What if you were conditioned to not take them? What if you became a child addict? What if literally nobody around you escaped the cycle of addiction and poverty? There's a difference between growing up in an environment where *a fourth-grader in your class is always scrounging for cigarette butts to smoke (that's what my dad grew up with), and your entire community…

As a thought experiment. How might an AI trying to follow the intent of Azimov's three laws of robotics help the humans?

Initial conclusion: the community is broken and dangerous to humans. Evacuation of at risk life necessary. Distribute and re-integrate across functional settlements.

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