Spoilers-ish (this happens pretty early in the movie) Janelle Monae smashes open a mystery box with a hammer, which is direct commentary on JJ Abrams Mystery Box writing. This movie is very very well written. Nearly every detail is paid off.
Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery – Bad Writing
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#52The film missed a couple of beats for me, so it isn't perfect by any means (neither was Last Jedi!), but it was really entertaining and clever.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why?
iirc it's extremely authoritarian. "Listen to your betters without question, for they know better than you. You do not need to understand their reasoning." We follow our heroes through an adventure and then our expectations are subverted when we learn their insubordinate adventure was bad and we're bad for rooting for them. Sorta flies in the face of everything people liked about star wars before it.
The entire Jedi thread throughout all of Star Wars is like that. An over 20-year old essay by David Brin goes into this at length. https://www.davidbrin.com/nonfiction/starwars1.html
I didn't love the sequel trilogy--though it was better than the prequels. (Although truth be told, the Phantom Menace and Jar-jar in particular so poisoned the well for the prequels that I think otherwise #2 and #3 would have been looked on more favorably. See also Machete order.)
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#54Spoilers-ish (this happens pretty early in the movie) Janelle Monae smashes open a mystery box with a hammer, which is direct commentary on JJ Abrams Mystery Box writing. This movie is very very well written. Nearly every detail is paid off.
How did JJ Abrams come into it?
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#55[spoiler warning] Just watched the movie yesterday evening and I was also quite disappointed, some of the choices did seem cheap, the twin, the book stopping the bullet, the "punishment" of Miles by the destruction of the Mona Lisa. I think that the movie had some potential, but after the twin reveal everything started going south. Edit: added warning
When the twin destroyed that painting, she became the villain of the movie.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Get Out was released 5 years ago. I think if you haven't seen it by now that's on you. Also, Darth Vader is Luke's father, Snape kills Dumbledore, and Bruce Willis is dead the whole movie.
Yep, got it, lesson learned. “Spoilers” can mean spoilers for anything. Back to my cave I go.
Honestly, if you're reading an article about movie X, then IMHO it is reasonable to assume that any spoiler warnings would be specific to movie X. If an article is going to spoil movies A, B, and C as well, then the spoiler warning text should make note of that.
Re: Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery – Bad Writing
#57[spoiler warning] Just watched the movie yesterday evening and I was also quite disappointed, some of the choices did seem cheap, the twin, the book stopping the bullet, the "punishment" of Miles by the destruction of the Mona Lisa. I think that the movie had some potential, but after the twin reveal everything started going south. Edit: added warning
When the twin destroyed that painting, she became the villain of the movie.
I was sorta expecting that they would point out that Miles was himself taken in by the Louvre, and given a museum shop print. But it doesn't work with the film's final gag, so I guess it's just an error.
Ah, well. I don't take mystery movies too seriously for just that reason. It was fun and I enjoyed it.
Re: Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery – Bad Writing
#58Spoilers-ish (this happens pretty early in the movie) Janelle Monae smashes open a mystery box with a hammer, which is direct commentary on JJ Abrams Mystery Box writing. This movie is very very well written. Nearly every detail is paid off.
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#59I’m geniunely wondering what the audience is supposed to get from all the 2020 references (Covid, Among Us, Zoom, Twitch), and the barrage of celebrity name-drops. I feel like the film was written for some specific Twitter subculture Rian Johnson is a part of, and maybe they find all the references hilarious. The mystery is dull, the dialogue obnoxious, the jokes unfunny, and the camera has that patented ugly digital…
COVID allows a shortcut to describing each character. The detective is depressed and bored. Birdie ignores lockdown restrictions and throws massive parties. The scientist is alone in his lab working the whole time. Duke built a home studio and spent his life online, etc. And Miles has a cure/vaccine for COVID but only uses it for his personal benefit. He never even shares it with his "friends" until they will be around him.
Among Us is supposed to show that the detective is bad at lying and sneaking around. This is later proven false, but it builds the expectation it goes against in the future.
Zoom and similar software is a good way to have characters talk to each other. A decade ago the same scene would have happened with everyone using a cellphone and the viewer at home getting the same view.
Meanwhile Twitch as a way that someone can become a famous influencer just seems about correct. Would you rather they just had a blog?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, got it, lesson learned. “Spoilers” can mean spoilers for anything. Back to my cave I go.
> “Spoilers” can mean spoilers for anything. Honestly, if you're reading an article about movie X , then IMHO it is reasonable to assume that any spoiler warnings would be specific to movie X . If an article is going to spoil movies A , B , and C as well, then the spoiler warning text should make note of that.