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To clarify, I'm talking NEMA 14-50, 240V@50A breaker, 40A charger) and will regularly get low charging rates if it's very cold.
I have that exact setup and haven't had that experience.
The cold hard truth about electric vehicles in winter
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Well, if they're smart, they've built their cities in such a way that cars are only something you hire for your vacation, rest of the time, a bike and/or a train pass is sufficient.
Ah, the Stack Overflow classic “this is a wrong problem to have”
You've got to break that circle at some point.
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And then you're replacing the fuel filters when it's below 0 F out because they got destroyed by the gelled diesel. And then you learn your lesson and keep a bottle of Power Service on hand if it's going to get cold and it's never a problem again. It's literally as easy as having the right fuel additives on hand before it gets too cold. It's not even an infrastructure problem. I will say that you left out the most fu…
There is no winter diesel in the US?
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OK, 10 years behind EV. It makes sense that it is where it is. Please point out anywhere where anyone says the accomplishments are not remarkable on their own, if you are not comparing them to the thing with 100 years infra behind it. Now compare that to the seemingly endless number of evangelists who think that 10 years from now is a good time to impose a mandate to kill all new ICE vehicle manufacturing, in spite o…
Where does Person B live? In a hut in Siberia?
This is not an artic circle problem. This is a problem that affects way more of the world than you seem to realize. Sorry that we don't all live in mild climates.
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For the good of the engine maybe. For the good of the driver... when you're finished scraping off it's better inside. Plus the windows kinda warmed up so it's easier to scrape.
Not sure what is the assumption. I have the opportunity to scrape the ice off of the car many times a year.
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U.K. is 220v @ 13A for an average socket. That's almost double what a common 120v 15A does in the U.S.
In the US it's 30A minimum for an average "220v" (it's actually 240 V) outlet such as a dryer or AC, that's more than double what 13A 220V gives in the UK.
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In the US it's 30A minimum for an average "220v" (it's actually 240 V) outlet such as a dryer or AC, that's more than double what 13A 220V gives in the UK.
You will not find a 240 in the u.s. outside of specific installations, while in the UK a common plug already is 220 13a.
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#518This is comedy gold: >Start the vehicle while it’s plugged in to allow the battery to warm up. “The key is warming that battery up,"
What’s the comedy? I always used to let my petrol car engine run a few mins till it warmed up on very cold mornings too
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OP should have gone by percentage of battery left, and just left the car plugged in. Not plugging in when arriving and letting the battery freeze (cold soak) overnight, unplugging after 30 minutes of 1.5kW level 1 charging and basing his entire decisions on what the car's guess-o-meter says for remaining milage is pretty crazy IMO. Seems like OP chose to do the worst thing possible at each juncture to ensure a bad ch…
> and basing his entire decisions on what the car's guess-o-meter says for remaining milage is pretty crazy IMO. What are you supposed to base it on? Does your EV come with a working crrystal ball? Should I read the car's horoscope? I mean, really, I've read stupid statements, but blaming the user for trusting the displayed battery capacity on a device really takes the cake.
Re: The cold hard truth about electric vehicles in winter
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OP should have gone by percentage of battery left, and just left the car plugged in. Not plugging in when arriving and letting the battery freeze (cold soak) overnight, unplugging after 30 minutes of 1.5kW level 1 charging and basing his entire decisions on what the car's guess-o-meter says for remaining milage is pretty crazy IMO. Seems like OP chose to do the worst thing possible at each juncture to ensure a bad ch…
If the "guess-o-meter" is so bad that it leads reasonable people to wildly wrong conclusions, I'm hesitant to blame that on the user. If all the factors you described are understood by humans, why aren't they factored into the display algorithm? If the car is going to drain battery for an hour getting warm before it can start to charge, then say that on the display.
All of these factors combine to make the range estimator a guesstimate on both gas and electric cars.