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2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by mmphosis »

Arbortheus wrote: post #5

Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

No. I am using Linux on PC hardware and I miss Mac OS X. I have a lot tweaks and hacks that just don’t cut it. For example, the PC Home and End keys for text boxes are hard coded into X.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by inkblotuniverse »

teawrecks wrote: post #28
uncletaco wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same story: 16 core, 64GB ram, 6900xt. And nothing crashes because even when being ridiculous I knew better than use Nvidia on Linux

I'll take "Sentiments from the Linux Community that Actively Drive Users Away" for 300.

Good, too many people are using Linux.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by AndrewOMartin »

brookst wrote: post #29
Avamander wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nvidia with Wayland? That's on you then, man.

Exactly why I only use linux for headless serves. God knows how many totally obvious mistakes would be “on me” if I tried to set up a GUI workstation. Who’s got the time to learn why you can’t use of of the main GPU brands with one of the main GUIs?

Hackers. You'll find a few around here.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by rietta »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #39

If I'm honest, Linux is...exhausting. I'm technically proficient, but even the "user-friendly" Ubuntu is a pain to work with. Something as simple as changing the mouse scroll speed requires creating a bash script. Software updates rarely work. There are random crashes that take hours to fix. I'm about to give in the towel and get a Mac. I can get it to work because the terminal doesn't scare me, but there's no way I…

Not my experience at all. Been running Ubuntu LTS for work for years and updates are just about bulletproof.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by IshKebab »

mmphosis wrote: post #61
Arbortheus wrote: post #5

Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

No. I am using Linux on PC hardware and I miss Mac OS X. I have a lot tweaks and hacks that just don’t cut it. For example, the PC Home and End keys for text boxes are hard coded into X.

Funny you should mention that because I always have to fix Home and End on Mac with Karabiner-Elements so they don't go the beginning and end of the entire document which is totally useless.

That said, I agree with you.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by brookst »

phpisthebest wrote: post #44
brookst wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly why I only use linux for headless serves. God knows how many totally obvious mistakes would be “on me” if I tried to set up a GUI workstation. Who’s got the time to learn why you can’t use of of the main GPU brands with one of the main GUIs?

Well it has been known for decades the Nvida is openly hostile to Linux Desktop, and actively tries to prevent development of open source drivers, Hell Linus has a famous speech where he literally flips of Nvida

Celebrity kernel hackers lobbing attacks at hardware makers in speeches is no way to run a compatibility matrix.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by ehutch79 »

phpisthebest wrote: post #44
brookst wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly why I only use linux for headless serves. God knows how many totally obvious mistakes would be “on me” if I tried to set up a GUI workstation. Who’s got the time to learn why you can’t use of of the main GPU brands with one of the main GUIs?

Well it has been known for decades the Nvida is openly hostile to Linux Desktop, and actively tries to prevent development of open source drivers, Hell Linus has a famous speech where he literally flips of Nvida

If I ask about this around the office, do you think anyone will have any idea what I'm talking about?

It might be obvious in your social circles, but that doesn't mean it's even remotely common enough to be assumed knowledge for someone trying out linux on the desktop for the first time.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by Arbortheus »

choeger wrote: post #32
Arbortheus wrote: post #5

Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

Pick a T-series thinkpad with an AMD CPU/GPU combo and the latest fedora. Done. Don't forget that MacOS ships with very Limited hardware, too.

Funnily enough, this is the exact spec of laptops (except with Nvidia GPUs) that all of my colleagues who have had these problems use.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by krick »

imwillofficial wrote: post #8

That’s against the rules. I’ve been doing this 20 years. You can only say next year is the year of the Linux desktop. No hindsight stuff allowed.

That's moral choice I guess: you were simply making mistakes for the last 20 years, an the OP is blatantly lying. Also, you were simply giving people hope, and OP is actively sabotaging the development, by trying to make false impression that this garbage is already working fine. Which, as every actual Linux user knows, just isn't the case.

Obviously, that's Microsoft PR department post. Using praise as a weapon.

I've had to update Ubuntu (to the latest LTS! which is 8 months old already!) on a laptop (a Thinkpad, for God's sake!), and I'm still fighting a bunch of problems (not exclusively driver-related) that I didn't have on the same machine on older Ubuntu (or maybe I've already fixed some of them before and forgot about that… but some certainly are new!). I hate it, and I have no idea how non-technical people manage to use it for daily life and not as a troubleshooting exercise simulator (I've heard some of them do — not sure if that's true though).

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Post by phpisthebest »

brookst wrote: post #66
phpisthebest wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it has been known for decades the Nvida is openly hostile to Linux Desktop, and actively tries to prevent development of open source drivers, Hell Linus has a famous speech where he literally flips of Nvida

Celebrity kernel hackers lobbing attacks at hardware makers in speeches is no way to run a compatibility matrix.

>Celebrity kernel hackers

Wow... that is a take... Linus is a "Celebrity kernel hacker" really?

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