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2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Rant: last weekend I finished building my teenager dream PC - 12 cores cpu, 64GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB VRAM... GNOME on Ubuntu still managed to crash / hang on a fresh install. Will try Mint / others, but it's a shame the "gateway distro for new users" is in such sorry state.

Nvidia with Wayland? That's on you then, man.

Forget it, I'll just install windows.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Is there any Linux distribution with MacOS levels of reliability, simplicity, and productivity, that can reliably be updated without the boot partition getting full, random things like thunderbolt docks not working, or sleep states being faulty (or the machine not working properly after waking from sleep), or external monitor resolutions being wrong, and monitor scaling working properly when you have two monitors wit…

Bugs? sounds like they misconfigured their OS Linux is not a commercial product that'll suit everyone all at once, you need to learn about its components, linux is just a kernel If your argumentation is "various linux bugs", then you should stick to Windows, it has nice "various windows bugs", or macos, it has nice "various macos bugs" There must be a reason why linux empowers the world from micro controllers to data…

No FUD. On laptops I’ve repeatedly failed to get the correct battery life. I’ve also struggled with audio working correctly and reliably.

Sure, something might be misconfigured but the universe of misconfiguration for a Mac and Linux are substantially different because Linux is a much sharper tool.

Pointing the finger at the user is emblematic of the problems Linux has when people say it isn’t suitable for the desktop (and these days they mean laptop).

Linux empowers from micro controllers to data centers because there are domain experts being paid to keep the whole thing running AND NONE of those use cases are for interactive day to day customer use on a laptop (eg power saving, audio, video playback, video conferencing, etc) b with the exception of steam deck and switch that have a carefully tuned and tightly controlled OS distribution for a carefully chosen hw configuration. Windows is arguably the closest to the problems Linux faces but generally Windows does a much better job providing usable and stable APIs that vendors build against whereas Linux does not always do such a good job (+ vendors care about Windows whereas Linux is generally an afterthought except if it’s relevant to Android).

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nvidia with Wayland? That's on you then, man.

Exactly why I only use linux for headless serves. God knows how many totally obvious mistakes would be “on me” if I tried to set up a GUI workstation. Who’s got the time to learn why you can’t use of of the main GPU brands with one of the main GUIs?

Well it has been known for decades the Nvida is openly hostile to Linux Desktop, and actively tries to prevent development of open source drivers,

Hell Linus has a famous speech where he literally flips of Nvida

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same story: 16 core, 64GB ram, 6900xt. And nothing crashes because even when being ridiculous I knew better than use Nvidia on Linux

I'll take "Sentiments from the Linux Community that Actively Drive Users Away" for 300.

Yeah, there's a huge problem in the community where every problem is the user's fault.

Like, using the most popular graphics card provider on Linux shouldn't be some outlandish idea that should be ridiculed.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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> a million steam deck this is still just a rumor at this stage as there is no source apart from one guy saying it in a KDE conference. If Valve had indeed shipped more than a million they'd be screaming about it on the rooftops.

Why would they? Private companies don't need to brag.

Also, on track record, Valve have been very quiet in general about the huge piles of money they have raked in over the last 20 years.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Any clue on what distros are causing the growth? First I've heard of all this.

Steam Deck + SteamOS is a catalyst in the making. You pretty much have to use Flatpak for application installation otherwise you risk your installs getting wiped out when Steam does a distro upgrade. You get a managed desktop experience with the setup. When you couple the Steam Deck with a good dock you have a great desktop computing experience.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same story: 16 core, 64GB ram, 6900xt. And nothing crashes because even when being ridiculous I knew better than use Nvidia on Linux

I'll take "Sentiments from the Linux Community that Actively Drive Users Away" for 300.

In reality it's more like a sentiment of a certain hardware manufacturer towards the Linux community. The best the community can do is make it known.

Re: 2022 was the year of Linux on the Desktop?

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post #9

Rant: last weekend I finished building my teenager dream PC - 12 cores cpu, 64GB RAM, RTX 3060 12GB VRAM... GNOME on Ubuntu still managed to crash / hang on a fresh install. Will try Mint / others, but it's a shame the "gateway distro for new users" is in such sorry state.

Same story: 16 core, 64GB ram, 6900xt. And nothing crashes because even when being ridiculous I knew better than use Nvidia on Linux

Linus Torvalds giving the finger to Nvidia should be required reading for all new Linux adventurers.
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