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Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

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Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

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post #4

Very little information in this “article”.

Ok, we've changed the url https://www.fleetmanagementweekly.com/yes-warming-up-your-ca... to the thing it points to, which is longer if not better. Edit: ok, that one ( https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verif... ) didn't work. Switching to the URL suggested in the comments below. Thanks!

Getting access denied. Sorry dang, this is not a great way to spend Christmas (thanks for the ceaseless moderation!).

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#13
post #4

Very little information in this “article”.

Ok, we've changed the url https://www.fleetmanagementweekly.com/yes-warming-up-your-ca... to the thing it points to, which is longer if not better. Edit: ok, that one ( https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verif... ) didn't work. Switching to the URL suggested in the comments below. Thanks!

Following the chain of links, I think this article is the original source: https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-idling-your-car-i... It's a much more detailed article, including some specific claims about the science.

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#14
post #4

Very little information in this “article”.

Ok, we've changed the url https://www.fleetmanagementweekly.com/yes-warming-up-your-ca... to the thing it points to, which is longer if not better. Edit: ok, that one ( https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verif... ) didn't work. Switching to the URL suggested in the comments below. Thanks!

This, from 2016, seems to be the original post and seems to be fairly well written, if surprising and controversial

https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-what-idling-your-car-i...

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#15
post #4

Very little information in this “article”.

Ok, we've changed the url https://www.fleetmanagementweekly.com/yes-warming-up-your-ca... to the thing it points to, which is longer if not better. Edit: ok, that one ( https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verif... ) didn't work. Switching to the URL suggested in the comments below. Thanks!

I can’t access the updated link and just get:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verify..." on this server. Reference #18.51d1202.1671993608.7d094d83

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#16
post #7

This feels a bit shallow. According to this website, another website says that warming your car in cold weather before driving can cause damage due to stripping oil from the piston. I’m willing to believe it but I’d like to hear some details. Surely the engine is going to warm to the same temperature soon enough?

Yeah, this is confusing. Does this mean idling your car is bad for the engine?

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#17

But what about for a Diesel engine?

yes thats a big hole in the article. diesel is oil, its a wet fuel, like gasoline [vs propane]. diesels here in AK usually run with winter additive or ether start.

the best bet really is block heater, its built in most vehicles here, but there are "stick on hot pads" you can put on your oilpan. these are high heat, you can cook an egg on one if you wait a little longer

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#18

Yet another closed access post on HN. My last complaint about this got flagged, but I really don't care. The HN community needs to stand behind open internet, not contribute to an increasingly closed one. "Access Denied You don't have permission to access " http://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verify... " on this server. Reference #18.6dc31302.1671993353.baa1f4a "

isnt that akamai cdn blocking vpn ips?

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#19

Yet another closed access post on HN. My last complaint about this got flagged, but I really don't care. The HN community needs to stand behind open internet, not contribute to an increasingly closed one. "Access Denied You don't have permission to access " http://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verify... " on this server. Reference #18.6dc31302.1671993353.baa1f4a "

That was caused by changing the original url.

Re: Warming up your car before driving in cold weather can damage the engine (2016)

#20

Yet another closed access post on HN. My last complaint about this got flagged, but I really don't care. The HN community needs to stand behind open internet, not contribute to an increasingly closed one. "Access Denied You don't have permission to access " http://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/weather-verify... " on this server. Reference #18.6dc31302.1671993353.baa1f4a "

Works fine for me, is that not just a temporary 403 error?
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