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Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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Frankly speaking I do not understand why a blog like yours is getting so many hits , whereas surely something like this written by me or 99 percent of the users in HN can never get such traction. I understand the reason for this is that you are somebody whereas we are nobodies. That’s why I don’t think that outside this niche of people who appreciate this idea it wound really take off. We are not going to wake up tom…

Dunno. HN is actually a powerful "viral engine." Lots of people without an internet following (including me) have had stuff blow up unexpectedly, and it's not world-class research or anything.

Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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This is fantastic, but not fully in the spirit of the old web. Personal pages looked like they did because they were essentially outsider art: the product of experimentation by teenagers and rank amateurs, who had no idea what we were doing. In 1999 we were using Netscape Composer and FrontPage Express, because they came with our browsers and were fun to explore. Only a web professional could use these tricks today t…

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Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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That's solvable with vw/vx-units in CSS. I think the range in aspect ratios is the bigger problem. It's hard to get around without resulting in a nasty reactive design where everything keeps shuffling around as you resize the window.

Sure, very solvable nowadays with media queries, flex box, grid, screen width and height units, etc. These features didn't exist in 90s CSS. But even though the tools exist today, it is still challenging to do well. Agreed that aspect ratio variability is a bigger problem (we can no longer count on 4:3 as the standard).

I have a 4K monitor on my desk with 100% scaling, and one of the things that always gives me a chuckle is maximizing a browser window.

Most websites just stop getting wider after a certain point, which is fine because you wouldn't want to read a line of text that long anyway. It's usually a column in the middle maybe 1/3rd of the screen.

Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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This is fantastic, but not fully in the spirit of the old web. Personal pages looked like they did because they were essentially outsider art: the product of experimentation by teenagers and rank amateurs, who had no idea what we were doing. In 1999 we were using Netscape Composer and FrontPage Express, because they came with our browsers and were fun to explore. Only a web professional could use these tricks today t…

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Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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Ok you got me, I feel nostalgic. What strikes me most is that those people from 90th were putting their creativity into something only handful of people will ever see, they were effectively shouting to void. I would love to be still able to discover low-ranging websites like this. I remember somebody shared some alternative search engine?

https://wiby.me - search for old websites (and new websites in old style. I think the index is updated manually).

Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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It's so much harder to pull it off with the huge range in screen sizes and resolutions. Back then you could make an 800x600 (or maybe even up to 960 width) design and it would work on 99% of the monitors (rarely did anyone have more than 1024x768).

That's solvable with vw/vx-units in CSS. I think the range in aspect ratios is the bigger problem. It's hard to get around without resulting in a nasty reactive design where everything keeps shuffling around as you resize the window.

The typical thing was a fixed width container table wrapped with tags. Then you set textalign on that table. Voilá your table fit all your content with a fixed size/aspect but would float center on the page of someone with larger than 800x600 or whatever minimum you designed for.

Re: Building a website like it's 1999

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I bet you some people got really annoyed when written language was standardized and people couldn't simply spell things willy nilly using "their creativity". Every time you read a book you are looking at thousands of years of typographical standardization, but you don't lament the fact that they "all look the same". In fact, if you took a book out of the library shelf and saw it was written in a weird font (i.e. papy…

Language standardization, typography, and published vs unpublished works are all in separate domains.

Language standardization is not typography and we have figured out typography for the most part before language standardization. Look at the American English 'argument' vs the British English 'arguement' or 'color' vs 'colour'.

I also just so happen to have a collection of German children's books - the font family each uses is different, but it's still German.

I liken web sites to digital magazines and newspapers. These have an artistic quality to them in terms of content, structure, pictures, etc.

Would you not think it bland if every newspaper or magazine on the planet used the same structure, font-face, and voice?

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