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California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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California also has the highest population. I'd be interested the see the "churn %" for each state - the raw numbers are basically meaningless

This chart summarizes % change by state. CA population change is in the middle band and doesn’t seem particularly notable.

https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/perc...

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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post #201

California also has the highest population. I'd be interested the see the "churn %" for each state - the raw numbers are basically meaningless

This chart summarizes % change by state. CA population change is in the middle band and doesn’t seem particularly notable. https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2022/comm/perc...

The second lowest of five bands is not “the middle band”.

I would agree that it is not particularly notable; a lot of the headlines are “look at the big numerator and ignore the big denominator, because narrative agenda”.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

Humidity isn't so bad when it's in the 50s/60s Fahrenheit all the time.

Right heat + humidity is bad, humidity alone isn't even noticed.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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I hope less people live there, too crowded.

Making western nevada and much of the mojave habitable would go a long way. Artificial rivers and lakes, importing sand and desalination (at scale to develop more sustainable water systems not on its own) and bullet trains would be ideal. The money and tech is there just not the collective will.

Places like Parhump NV, Bishop CA and Reno,NV have huge potentia as population centers.

It's so nice there from the mojave to the eastern sierra range and tahoe. Bullet train connecting these areas to PNW and coastal CA plus more water is needed. Why wouldn't you live the towns I mentioned above if LA and SF are 1-2 hours away at most and Seattle is half a day away at most even from LA?

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These numbers are from /dev/urandom or perhaps /dev/null, or maybe they hired white-glove movers and car transporters and flew first class to their destination or something. I moved Chicago to Seattle for like $2-3k all-in (counting plane tickets) in 2017, leaving only couches and beds behind (just wasn't worth bothering to move the cheap Ikea-grade stuff I had). Seattle-Vancouver in 2018 and, a year later, back, wer…

Like everything else, moving has gotten more expensive. But I did manage in June of 2022 manage to move from Boston to outside Atlanta for maybe $2500 -$3000 between the hotels, food, shipping my stuff down, gas, etc

That's still considered a luxury moving experience by most. Most people rent a U-Haul for a few hundred dollars and have maybe a few hundred more dollars in gas and hotels.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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I am glad to be a part of this trend in 2022. Good bye Californian suckers. Hello Texas. No more mooching off of my money, handing it to illegal aliens.

Thanks for narrowing the gap between income tax contributions from CA and TX by bringing your earning power to TX.

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Francisco is one of the most humid cities in the US (so much that mold can be a problem in some cases). Relative humidity is on average higher than Wash DC --but lower than Port Arthur, TX.

San Francisco is moist. But respectfully, it is not the hot humidity that drives you to to find air conditioning and plan you day around staying inside to avoid.

Idk if the second part is really fair - as a Texan turned SF resident, I can understand how the Texas heat can be alarming at first. But if definitely didn’t stop us from going outside, doing things, holding sports practices (outside the rare 115 degree day), etc.

The AC is appreciated, but you get acclimated to the heat. And anecdata of one, but I really miss the heat / humidity.

Texas civilization does predate AC after all for at least a couple centuries ;)

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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post #157

How smug are Californians that those who always disagree with them always “must be Republicans”? They really said people are leaving the state because of “political reasons” (ie, “they’re Republicans, aka, ‘non-regrettable attrition’”)? Couldn’t be all of the other reasons could it. I say this as a California native who left for a litany of reasons, last of them being the politics.

What do you think caused all those problems that made you leave, if not policies driven by politics?

Re: California’s population shrinks for third straight year

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Not surprising when you look at California's home prices. The median home sold from Marin County to Santa Clara County is $1M+. That's the same land mass as from Times Square to the Maryland border. https://twitter.com/nextdoorsv/status/1440035534693232640 California is NIMBYism at its worst: the far left opposes more housing, the far right opposes more housing, and the center is sick of traffic from more housing.

the far left opposes more housing Not true at all. The far left objects to gentrification, where the supply of housing nominally increases but prices continue to go higher. Short-term rentals and properties being kept vacant for land speculation are two factors. The far left hates landlords and property speculators, for more or less the same reasons Adam Smith did.

Fine. The far left opposes more housing… but for different reasons than the far right.
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