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Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

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Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

#61

The title would make more sense with quotes around the CSS keywords: I'm sure LastPass setting the delete account to "display: none" was coincidental

I got it right the first time. Too much time spend with CSS. Nevertheless you are right. Clarity is needed here.

> I got it right the first time.

Same

> Too much time spend with CSS.

I don’t even use CSS that much anymore.

> Clarity is needed here.

I call for a vote :p the title is perfectly legible as-is to me

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

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post #16

I spent last night resetting dozens of passwords and migrating everything into Keychain. Some observations: Keychain integration with 2fa codes is really nice. Passkeys are awesome and I wish more sites implemented this. So far I only saw Google and eBay?

Best part is that it is really easy to export the passwords too!

I exported the passwords and imported them onto my self hosted instance of Vaultwarden. After activating the Bitwarden extension for Safari, all of my passwords are now synced to two places.

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one site gets breached/exposed, your memorized username/password combination used all across the internet is now immediately available to the bad actors and you might not even know or remember everywhere it was used. Having a unique password for each site is the main advantage of a password manager to mitigate the damage in this case (to just the 1 site that was breached). Talking about your vault/passwords and "s…

Doesn't this assume the passwords aren't hashed and salted?

Yes my comment made a lot of assumptions, but the original post invited them I think. Reading the other comments from the original poster changes the tone of the original message a lot. I think for someone who knows the term "infosec" and has a mental algorithm, a password manager isnt necessary per-se. If we are talking about the general public, in a constantly evolving digital world, I think password managers are a good thing. I think this site is a tiny fraction of the potential userbase for a password manager

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

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post #22

Just deleted my account - everything was fine. One thing to note, there's nowhere in the UI or account settings tab to delete my account. I had to go directly to the link.

After migrating to another password manager, do you also need to rotate all your passwords? Or at least the most sensitive ones? Or is the LastPass hack so far unlikely to compromise the passwords? (since I understand only encrypted data is in hacker's hands)

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

#65

In light of this breach, can someone explain to me why it's not stupid to keep all your passwords in one place? I've never used a pw manager because it seems absolutely inevitable that these sorts of leaks happen. It just seems like an incredibly put all your eggs in one basket cargo cult type move. I just can't stomach single points of failure like that for anything worth protecting. Using a password manager is one…

Reusing passwords or having low entropy passwords is a larger risk.

The thing is... Your password manager should be offline, not a cloud service.

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

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post #48

In light of this breach, can someone explain to me why it's not stupid to keep all your passwords in one place? I've never used a pw manager because it seems absolutely inevitable that these sorts of leaks happen. It just seems like an incredibly put all your eggs in one basket cargo cult type move. I just can't stomach single points of failure like that for anything worth protecting. Using a password manager is one…

I'm on the opposite side: I don't understand how a password manager can be compromised. Your passwords are encrypted and decrypted OFFLINE, on your device. You only ever send the ENCRYPTED vault. Your key never transits. How is that complicated? And how did LastPass fuck this up anyway?

As far as I know, it’s only believed that the attackers have the encrypted vaults of LastPass users.

However, that does mean they can attempt to “brute force” the encryption, trying any number of passwords as often as they like - and it seems some earlier versions of LastPass used rather poor choices with that cryptography, meaning the amount of effort needed to make an attempt is lower than other similar services (plus some users may have rather poor master passwords, making them easier to guess).

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

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post #55
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on the opposite side: I don't understand how a password manager can be compromised. Your passwords are encrypted and decrypted OFFLINE, on your device. You only ever send the ENCRYPTED vault. Your key never transits. How is that complicated? And how did LastPass fuck this up anyway?

I assumed that the hackers have the encrypted vaults. Is it known that that they have unencrypted password data?

No, but apparently the urls were not encrypted, so that could be quite a gold mine for blackmail.

Re: Lastpass setting the delete account div to display: none

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post #55
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on the opposite side: I don't understand how a password manager can be compromised. Your passwords are encrypted and decrypted OFFLINE, on your device. You only ever send the ENCRYPTED vault. Your key never transits. How is that complicated? And how did LastPass fuck this up anyway?

I assumed that the hackers have the encrypted vaults. Is it known that that they have unencrypted password data?

I believe they are only the encrypted vaults, but with the cost of compute plummeting and the inclusion of unencrypted data alongside the encrypted data I think you have reason to worry if you believe there are people who would perform a dedicated attack on you, or you are in a class likely to be identified as high value.
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