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Color me shocked that you're completely ignoring the merit of the post. Stay on target, Red 5. This is about Tesla selling dangerously flawed software and misnaming it. This doesn't fall under what lawsuits would refer to as "puffery" (world's greatest coffee!). Tesla is literally misleading customers in a way that can lead to death.
I can’t tell if you are joking or not
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The title of this is "Full Self Driving Hardware on All Teslas". The hardware is in fact on all Teslas. What part of that is fraud? Nothing about this video was misleading and the car did in fact drive itself through that route.
Calling it hardware for "Full Self Driving" is fraudulent if FSD doesn't exist, is nowhere close to existing, and the video has been deliberately edited to defraud viewers into thinking the hardware is capable of something that doesn't actually exist. What sort of semantic game are you playing here and why? I don't understand how you can not see this as anything but competent fraudulent, particularly with the editing…
Mainstream full self driving would just create massive traffic and gridlock - pointless in the end. The induced demand would outweigh the benefits. States are better off acknowledging that sprawling car dependent cities are not sustainable. High frequency busses in the interim with rail transit is the real solution. Current self driving technology plus some key infrastructure changes with dedicated bus lanes and prio…
One of the killer feature I expect to see in the future when we have FSD is that cities will take direct control of traffic in a central way. If cars can be distributed evenly over all roads with each driver getting an average distance/time-to-arrival the overall speed would significant increase, with car owners loosing the control to pick the shortest route in order to be allowed to use the roads in the city. Centra…
Mainstream full self driving would just create massive traffic and gridlock - pointless in the end. The induced demand would outweigh the benefits. States are better off acknowledging that sprawling car dependent cities are not sustainable. High frequency busses in the interim with rail transit is the real solution. Current self driving technology plus some key infrastructure changes with dedicated bus lanes and prio…
One of the killer feature I expect to see in the future when we have FSD is that cities will take direct control of traffic in a central way. If cars can be distributed evenly over all roads with each driver getting an average distance/time-to-arrival the overall speed would significant increase, with car owners loosing the control to pick the shortest route in order to be allowed to use the roads in the city. Centra…
Positively dystopian to me.
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I don’t think self-driving cars lead to fewer people owning cars, in fact it’s quite the opposite. With FSD, those who don’t like driving can deal with owning a car to do necessary transportation tasks (e.g. commuting), instead of giving it up for alternative methods because they don’t want to drive consciously/presently.
I think it goes both ways and we won’t know for sure until it comes to fruition. Personally, I hate owning vehicles and desperately want a self-driving taxi service that I can order via an app to get me and my family around.
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I don’t think self-driving cars lead to fewer people owning cars, in fact it’s quite the opposite. With FSD, those who don’t like driving can deal with owning a car to do necessary transportation tasks (e.g. commuting), instead of giving it up for alternative methods because they don’t want to drive consciously/presently.
Alternatively, a bunch of friends could buy a car together and split the costs. I could see a scenario where instead of (or in addition to) vehicles being pooled between "x" random people (taxis, Uber/Lyft, ZipCar), you could purchase a fractional share of a car ( Cf . NetJets): you get semi-exclusive use of (particular?) vehicles.
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https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/tesla-ordered-upgrade-self-dr...
Aside from that, Musk wants you to vote for people who are strong supporters of the oil and gas industry. He did when he voted for Mayra Flores: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1536973965394157569
Mayra Flores says the "oil and gas industry is critical to the success of our State and Nation" and that she "will always work to help the oil and gas industry and stand firm against radical policies that would undermine it": https://www.mayrafloresforcongress.com/issues/
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1. The law on self-driving was sponsored by a legislator on the Transportation committee
2. The Transportation Committee chair is heavily lobbied by - and received donations from - the oil and gas industry. The pil and gas industry is a major user of, and supplier to transportation as a whole.
Edit: I'm failing to corroborate oil and gas PAC spend on her - seems to be FUD. Her total clear-money campaign expenditure to date is under $500k, so the claim of a multi-million dollar PAC with no evidence seems suspect.
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I don’t think self-driving cars lead to fewer people owning cars, in fact it’s quite the opposite. With FSD, those who don’t like driving can deal with owning a car to do necessary transportation tasks (e.g. commuting), instead of giving it up for alternative methods because they don’t want to drive consciously/presently.
Anecdotal evidence, but as a city-dweller who owns a car, all of my friends who don't own cars have a reason besides "it's inconvenient." They have a disability that makes it unsafe to operate a vehicle and/or they simply can't afford a car. Maybe it's different in other parts of the world, but that seems to be the way it works here in Chicago.
Originally, growing up in St Louis, I avoided driving because I saw lots of friends wasting their time in shit jobs to pay for their shit cars; cars were supposed to provide freedom, but were really a gateway to the shackles of work. I suppose that's another reason beyond 'it's inconvenient,' though.