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Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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Primary mailserver at home. Secondary MX in a VM at one of the services; it only stores mail if primary is down, otherwise relays immediately. Dovecot and Postfix, SpamAssassin and ClamAV; greylisting, SPF and DMARC but not DKIM. I handle mail for my family, some friends, and a few mailing lists.

Do you have business class internet at home? I've always found that ports for SMTP are blocked on residential lines

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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I think it's important to at least own your email domain, so you can keep your address when changing hosts. Hosting myself is too much of a hassle, so I go with PurelyMail. It's wonderfully cheap and works great. Had no issues with delivery so far.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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I think it's important to at least own your email domain, so you can keep your address when changing hosts. Hosting myself is too much of a hassle, so I go with PurelyMail. It's wonderfully cheap and works great. Had no issues with delivery so far.

Exactly, even folks using Gmail still (for some reason) have an escape hatch if they use their own domain. But if they use @gmail.com, they are basically using someone else's email address... one where the true owner, Google, has every right to revoke it at any time.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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I host my own using a VPS with OpenBSD, OpenSMTPD, and Dovecot. I like having unlimited mailboxes and aliases.

In-bound is easy with DNS checks filtering all spam. Out-bound is somewhat out of my control, so I use a relay like smtp2go or sendgrid for reliable delivery.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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protonmail

used to be also on protonmail for a couple of years. acutally since they started, but i dont like the mobile clients or the bridge. also there had been some shady messaging in the last year (previous discussions on hn). what i also dislike is they cancelled a bunch of pro plans and replaced with way more expensive ones, and i had no way to continue my older plan.

i recently moved to microsoft o365 basic, which is good and also gives the smtp etc, so you get any client to work. The biggest pro i miss is a catch all mail solution, which was amazing for protonmail. i didnt have enough time to tinker with o365 to find out catch all mail so far, everything else it beats protonmail hands down.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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I use Gmail. I used to self-host when my time was worth $15.50/hour (college), but these days I have many things more important in my life than meddling with email servers and fretting about deliverability.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

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I'm self-hosting since 2005, moved from Courier to Postfix/Dovecot/Rspamd to dual server Maddy/Dovecot (replicated)/Rspamd + legacy Postfix (to be scrapped when I find time) setup. I've changed IP addresses and domains over time, and everything was perfectly smooth. Both machines are my own hardware, on residential ISP connections on different continents (with some tunnels for one machine where ISP is less friendly). Have some plans to throw in asymmetric encryption and add some MTAs running on machines outside of my physical control (a VPS or something) - but I'm quite fine with what I currently have.

Maddy instead of Postfix because Postfix configuration gets quite messy with complex virtual users logic. I was trying to refactor it, trying to devise some sort of DSL to make things more bearable - and found myself wishing there'd be something more straightforward. Maddy was a good fit (and it has a modern easy-to-understand codebase that I can hack on it if I need to). It's much smaller and simpler than Haraka, but still has all the features I need, and looks secure (I swept through the source code and found nothing obvious).

Dovecot is a very fine piece of software. I was considering Wildduck, but haven't figured out a contingency plan if I'm going to dislike it in the long run. As long as all my mail is a Maildir (with some extra indexes I can just ditch), I have no worries - I'll always be able to read it. So I've just set up dsync for the failover (in case one of my servers has a network or power outage) and can't be happier.

Once (somewhere in early 2010s) I had a backscatter issue that put me on a couple DNSBLs, fixed that the same hour I've learned of the issue, filled out some forms on RBLs I was listed on, got removed in a couple days.

Delivery-wise, I've had some issues with Outlook (to an extent I've almost set up an "embassy" there, tricking the system into thinking that my domain is hosted with them and using their own MSA for my outgoing mail to Outlook-hosted domains - proof-of-concept had worked, but I haven't really bothered to implement it in practice as they had suddenly started to receive my mail without issues, and this whole idea is a dirty hack), but otherwise email delivers fine. A couple times Gmail put my emails into spam, but mostly everything worked as expected. Not that I send many emails, maybe a couple dozen a year - it's mostly receiving.

I'd say the main problem is lack of decent mail clients.

Re: Ask HN: Do You Host Your Own Email?

#20
Maybe not what you're looking for, but I have a catchall alias setup using Cloudflare, so any mail @mydomain gets sent to my Gmail address.

I can only receive mail, but having my own domain is useful because now I can move without telling everyone a new address.

For my websites, I use Zoho's free mail plan + nodemailer for sending automated password reset emails and the like. It works pretty well.

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