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Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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post #39

Goodbye Hacker News. A bunch of extremely well-paid SWEs complain about donating two bucks to a completely free encyclopedia representing hundreds of thousands of volunteer human hours of effort; replacing (sorry, “disrupting”) extremely expensive Britannica books means to me the orange site has lost it’s way.

what percentage of the money actually goes to the volunteers?

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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post #39

Goodbye Hacker News. A bunch of extremely well-paid SWEs complain about donating two bucks to a completely free encyclopedia representing hundreds of thousands of volunteer human hours of effort; replacing (sorry, “disrupting”) extremely expensive Britannica books means to me the orange site has lost it’s way.

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Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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post #39

Goodbye Hacker News. A bunch of extremely well-paid SWEs complain about donating two bucks to a completely free encyclopedia representing hundreds of thousands of volunteer human hours of effort; replacing (sorry, “disrupting”) extremely expensive Britannica books means to me the orange site has lost it’s way.

Not everyone here is a silicon valley millionaire. Sure there are some, but there are many who are not. Some are even from developing nations where a few USD represents a significant amount of money.

I think the core of the argument is that they don't need the money, but act like they do to keep the site running but actually run a huge surplus.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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"Every time you go to Wikipedia" meaning "in December, until you click it to go away"?

I tolerate it because I like the resource, and I donate a small amount of money most years.

When organizations ask for money I don't immediately get defensive and start researching talking points as to why they don't really need it. Maybe I should, but I don't. So yeah, chalk one up to a naive rube with a lack of awareness. And no desire to setup custom blocking filters that inevitably are more work to maintain than they're actually worth.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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All the other top websites [1] either are selling my information (Meta) , exist to show me ads (Google), or I pay monthly for (Netflix). Wikipedia runs one of the busiest websites in the world with a staff much smaller than any of those other sites. Like any company -- there's going to be priorities different than mine and waste. But I'm ok being asked to chip in for what I get. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_…

I'm ok with paying too, and I did many times. Then I found out I wasn't actually paying for what I was getting (wikipedia) but actually only a small fraction of my donations were going there and the majority was a bait and switch.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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> In fact, they make so much money from donations, they spend (read: waste) massive amounts of it on various social ventures instead of using it on the service that caused people to donate in the first place. Do you have some specific examples? Further, how much are they 'wasting' as a function of their reserves?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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post #48

I’ve worked a lot with nonprofits. Having a pool of static funds available is not indicative of sustainability. If you are asking for funds only when you are running out, it is far too late for you.

Their spending grows commensurately with their fundraising. The cost of maintaining wikipedia is more or less constant. It's a cancerous growth pattern.
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