Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by dark-star » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

I guess it isn't, it's just that many people know how to use (and configure) an adblocker in their browser....

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by jrd259 » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:14 PM UTC

I cancelled my monthly donation. I was quite happy to pay for Wikipedia, but hearing that they are doing fine, and lacking any insight into what the wikimedia foundation does, I stopped. Plenty of other places to give tzedakah.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by xekc » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:14 PM UTC

No need to tolerate, it’s a non-profit, it’s not owned by anyone. Just join and do things better than they do, provoke change and transparency from within if you can’t tolerate it no longer.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by avalys » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:15 PM UTC

I don’t tolerate it - I don’t give them any money.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by marssaxman » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:15 PM UTC

adrianmsmith wrote: post #10

I think it’s tolerated because.. we don’t have a choice other than to tolerate it. What else are we going to do? Are we going to close the browser window and not use Wikipedia?

You can add the following rules to your uBlock Origin config:

  en.wikipedia.org##.cn-fundraising
  en.wikipedia.org##.frb-country-US.frb-rml-enabled.frb

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by 4ggr0 » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:16 PM UTC

rhasejr wrote: post #8

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Can you elaborate on that, do you have any sources?

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by 28304283409234 » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:17 PM UTC

Don't like it? Don't visit it.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by GTP » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:19 PM UTC

MattGaiser wrote: post #3

We would consider companies foolish if they left sales on the table, even if they didn't immediately need it. Why would non-profits be expected to not fundraise as aggressively as possible? The expectation that non-profits should be run on fumes is silly.

> Why would non-profits be expected to not fundraise as aggressively as possible?

I think the reason is that we expect, or assume, non-profits to have a better ethical stance than for-profit organization. That's the point of a non-profit organization after all: doing something because they feel it's the right thing to do, regardless whether it is profitable or not.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by nadow » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:21 PM UTC

i just click on the "i already donated, stop showing me this message" option.

i've never donated, but they dont need to know that.

Re: Ask HN: Why is the Wikipedia Foundation's begging tolerated?

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Post by Mountain_Skies » Fri, Dec 23, 2022, 4:22 PM UTC

themodelplumber wrote: post #4

> they spend (read: waste) Really? What makes you think it's all or even mostly waste?

A quick web search will provide you with many examples of what some perceive as waste. This is widespread common knowledge along the lines of the ice cream machine at McDonald's frequently being broke so there's little reason for the poster to be obligated to provide examples of easily found common knowledge, even if you don't personally agree with the perception.