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Re: I am done. I give up

#391
First, note that 9 out of 10 startups fail.

I'm sorry you tried three times unsuccessfully - I'm sure you have learned a lot. Perhaps you would agree with me that the first attempt wasn't based on a lot of knowledge compared with the last; so maybe we discount that early one. Then trying for another 8 time would put you in a position where you can say "it doesn't work, I've done it all by the book".

Now it is your right to stop. I would rather you stopped than have you get sick (again). But analysis your post suggests that you may potentially confuse "start up" and "indy developer", at least you use the terms rather interchangeably. That's not at all the same thing! For a startup, you need a team. An indy developer (freelancer) is a solo play, where you would be very unlikely to be impactful in comparison, even if you tried 30 times.

Watching influencers is a waste of time. What I have observed is that people driven by their hunger for success more quickly burn out. You need to best pursue something that intrinsically passionate about, then you may never get tired. Anyone coding, writing a story or even sleeping uses their time better than watching influencers, IMHO.

Re: I am done. I give up

#392

Why do "indiehackers" want attention from and create products for other "indiehackers"? As a group they seem the people with the least amount of money to spend on products, and are some of the most cheapskate people on the planet. Here's some advice: if you want to make money selling a software product, sell to people who are able and willing to spend money on it.

> Here's some advice:

I strongly doubt OP wants advice.

Re: I am done. I give up

#393

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The issue is who pays for the welfare state. Finland got a lot of its wealth through off sea oil I think. Not easy to replicate in almost every part of the world. If you make the population pay for the welfare state, you are essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul. The people you rob (the ones paying the bulk of taxes) have a lower incentive to produce. This is one reason the energy Windfall taxes being proposed everyw…

1. Finland doesn't have oil, you're mistaking it for Norway. 2. Progressive taxation is the basis on which the best places to live were built. This is an empirical observation, make of that what you will, but it's strange to give your gut feelings of "basic economics / human nature" more weight than objective reality. 3. Why do is the word "rob" applied to taxation? Without the state to at least enforce laws, enforce…

>!Without the state to at least enforce laws, enforce property rights, and physically protect you, there wouldn't even be any wealth creation.

This is the kind of minimalist state that libertarians would agree to. People talk about robbery when the state is spending money on arbitrary things.

Re: I am done. I give up

#394
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Bezos would not have kept Amazon in the US if it adopted Nordic welfare levels of taxation. The fact of the matter is that the EU has a staggeringly low output when it comes to tech innovation compared to the US. Their policies and regulations shape this.

Your taxes shouldn’t be based on where your HQ is but rather where your customers are.

Please go file your taxes in 37 different countries with different regulations where your customers are.

You will bankrupt from your accountants’ bills.

Re: I am done. I give up

#395
Before I jump in, I hope this opening up has helped you. You're not alone. You took the road less travelled. That isn't easy. God bless you.

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> "But it's not just the lack of success that's getting me down. It's also the constant stream of digital nomad influencers on Twitter who sell extremely distorted, rosy, and often times false dreams to indie entrepreneurs like myself. They make it seem like building a successful startup is easy and anyone can do it with the right mindset and a few key tips. But the reality is that it's not that simple. It's fucking hard and it takes more than just a positive attitude to make it."

I know you said you're done. But for anyone else still looking, there's a market right there. Well, the opposite actually. That is, be a no BS social media "influencer." Tell it like it really is. Call out the snake oil sellers and the liars. Be honest. Be transparent. Share to help, not to deceive.

Because: "I know I'm not alone in feeling this way."

Re: I am done. I give up

#397
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Can confirm. Lived a very frugal early retirement lifestyle in Austria because it was practically impossible to build wealth (high taxes, comparatively very low tech salaries, little entrepreneurial support/incentives). Moving to the US I was able to 5-6x my income (from what I could have realistically made) , while reducing my tax burden by 15 percentage points, and so I've been happily living a workaholics' lifesty…

I agree with your point about Europe squandering engineering talent. Overall, it's a trade-off, though. You are right about the US opportunities, but there are downsides, too: - crime (you get crime everywhere, but the US has a particularly and unnecessarily high level of serious crime like gun crime - e.g. school shootings happen pretty regularly); - not everyone has good healthcare & social services (I am aware you…

All the problems you listed as US-specific problems exist in my corner of Europe too, except gun violence. And on top of that we have fewer jobs, lower salaries, higher taxes and high unemployment.

I love Europe: its history, its music, its art, its architecture, its legacy - yes! the good and the bad -, its food, its cultures. But from my point of view we are killing ourselves, choked in an endless decay, metastasizing bureaucracy, and never-ending hopelessness.

I'm sure the Nordic Country are happy though, and that's the problem: American tend to compare the worst of their country with the best of our continent.

Re: I am done. I give up

#399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is who pays for the welfare state. Finland got a lot of its wealth through off sea oil I think. Not easy to replicate in almost every part of the world. If you make the population pay for the welfare state, you are essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul. The people you rob (the ones paying the bulk of taxes) have a lower incentive to produce. This is one reason the energy Windfall taxes being proposed everyw…

> The people you rob (the ones paying the bulk of taxes) have a lower incentive to produce. And yet when the top tax rate was 96%, Americans still produced. When I was 12, I was impressed by Atlas Shrugged, but by the time I was 17 I realized it was ludicrous.

Most wealthy Americans were never paying 96% in taxes, if any at all. There were many more loopholes during this time.

People are forgetting that the high tax countries are enjoying the fruits of lower-tax countries labor.

Technology and drugs are the big ones. Big, evil companies create life-saving drugs and generics are created and sold for pennies to these countries.

With no incentive to create (ie: large profits), humans will definitely not advance.

Money is also freedom. The less we are able to keep, the less free we become (and more dependent on the government/state).

Re: I am done. I give up

#400
I think it’s right to get out. Give yourself time and you will start to feel better. I’m hindsight you will see that this issue is with this “space” and not at all with you.
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