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ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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This has attention right now because of the stupid political news cycle. The South Dakota governor wants to be Sarah Palin Jr. The reality is lots of people sell this data. If you shut down tiktok, the Chinese will go buy it or otherwise obtain it from one of them.

Which is why tracking and selling such data should be illegal.

Exactly. If TikTok can’t do it, Facebook shouldn’t either.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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One of the more unexpected parts of the Twitter files (part 7, in fact) is it reveals some well developed linkages between the US intelligence services and media companies. If the US is blurring the corporate-government boundaries, the Chinese are certainly much more aggressive in their activities. And all these agencies run extra-legal kidnapping operations. I'm rare in that although I don't like it corporate spying…

After wikileaks/Snowden this is just not news anymore. I really fail to see what's new. What am I missing?

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> General counsel Erich Andersen wrote to staff that a “misguided plan was developed and carried out by a few individuals within the Internal Audit department this past summer”, adding that those involved “misused their authority to obtain access to TikTok user data” in violation of its code of conduct. Ah yes, straight from the playbook: management gets caught being mischievous and throws a few underlings under the…

In which case, there would be evidence of that. Prosecutors are notorious for wanting the biggest fish out there. While their might be bigger players that are getting away with this, it's also not unreasonable to think that it happened as the evidence shows.

Basically, rather than make stuff up, I'd rather go with what the evidence shows and what can be proven. It's easy to hide in a big company, and it's at a bigger company where it's a lot easier to abuse your position without anyone else, including higher ups, knowing.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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post #357

One of the more unexpected parts of the Twitter files (part 7, in fact) is it reveals some well developed linkages between the US intelligence services and media companies. If the US is blurring the corporate-government boundaries, the Chinese are certainly much more aggressive in their activities. And all these agencies run extra-legal kidnapping operations. I'm rare in that although I don't like it corporate spying…

After wikileaks/Snowden this is just not news anymore. I really fail to see what's new. What am I missing?

People learning about this for the first time. Snowden/wikileaks weren't even the first ones to share this. It's been well known for decades. It's not a secret. It's well known and well established in many industries.

And why does this happen? Because money. Every single tech darling plays along. Chances are, unless you knew for a fact you weren't participating in this, you were at some level.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

#365

> General counsel Erich Andersen wrote to staff that a “misguided plan was developed and carried out by a few individuals within the Internal Audit department this past summer”, adding that those involved “misused their authority to obtain access to TikTok user data” in violation of its code of conduct. Ah yes, straight from the playbook: management gets caught being mischievous and throws a few underlings under the…

In which case, there would be evidence of that. Prosecutors are notorious for wanting the biggest fish out there. While their might be bigger players that are getting away with this, it's also not unreasonable to think that it happened as the evidence shows. Basically, rather than make stuff up, I'd rather go with what the evidence shows and what can be proven. It's easy to hide in a big company, and it's at a bigger…

they just decided to track journalists for fun with no-one telling them to? seems pretty unlikely to me.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

#366

We really really need to shut this down as a national security issue. If they took it off Apple and Google Play stores it would reduce usage immediately by at least 80-90% along with having apple/android send out blocks like they can for malware (which it is). It's hard to believe Biden didn't continue Trump's attempt to shut it down.

What about the First Amendment?

What about it? Does it specify that all Chinese mobile apps need to be distributed by the major mobile companies? I don't see how it's related. Please elaborate.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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I would hardly call FT state propaganda in any circumstance. To me true state propaganda is where the state has editorial authority over the dissemination of stories - in the west that still relatively rare.

But absolutely independent of whether FT are propaganda - it does not matter in any way to this story whether they are a 'protected class'. The outrage is that TikTok employees abused their user data in the pursuit of an agenda against targeted individuals.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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>>tacit assumption that you and the US government have some shared goals My goal is to live my life free from abuse, coercion, and infringement of my natural rights as a living human the governments goal (be it china or US) is power, and control via the exclusive authority to initiate violence on the people with in the sphere of influence I do not share any goals with government.

I think that’s a very cynical outlook on society. I take it you’re not a huge fan of the US constitution?

The us constitution has either authorized the government we now have or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it has proven to be unfit to safe guard the natural rights it was created to protect against the onslaught of authoritarian policies that have largely ignored all limits placed on government authority

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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So if I'm reading this right, it was wrong only because they were spying on Americans. Spying on others is apparently still ok.

You're not reading it right. The FT journalist in this story is not American. But, as a general rule, nations seek to protect their own citizens.

They wrote that other users connected to her were also targeted, which apparently included Americans too. Otherwise why would they do this:

>ByteDance has since restructured its internal audit team and removed access to US data from that department.

I read it as their internal audit team still having access to userdata data from other regions.

Re: ByteDance confirmed it used TikTok to monitor journalists’ physical location

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Out of curiosity, what has Zelensky done to improve Ukraine before the war, other than not being a Kremlin puppet? As I understood it, before the war he was sliding down in the polls, becoming unpopular because there haven't been the massive crackdowns on corruptions he was campaigning for (like in his TV show), with him also being uncovered in the Pandora papers as having various hidden assets [1] and only his resis…

There's a ton of white washing of Ukraine since the invasion. Just as with everything else, it's not enough to just think that one side is more correct, they must be completely exemplar.

Combination of the halo effect and allegiance signalling.
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