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Re: I am done. I give up

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This is one of the underappreciated benefits of the Nordic-style welfare state: everybody can afford to fail. Unfortunately it's rarely discussed in society as such. The political parties that built these welfare states have traditionally been associated with worker unions, and entrepreneurship isn't high on their agenda. The Nordic right-wing parties got ideologically married to Thatcher-style neoliberalism and pref…

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Consistently forgetting that giant majority putting US ahead in consumer software is large, single-language and culture target group.

Re: I am done. I give up

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Yeah you are absolutely not alone. I was lucky enough to have a startup make it about seven years ago. I do not think I could do it in today's environment AT ALL and also don't know how to use any of my past 'success' to repeat something. Starting from 'not that' would be infinitely harder, that's not fair for anyone, and that sucks.

I completely agree with the whole problem of how social media and tech 'influencers' have ruined the ability to get ideas out there. I also think that the zeitgeist of what is possible and popular today is very limited, and made worse by many end-users being burnout and uncurious.

This website glamorizes startups and should not. It's not a golden path for most anyone. It makes people think it's remotely easy, and it's 99.999% chance for most good people that are well rounded enough with a great idea and 99.999% rich people connections for everyone else.

It requires (potentially) a ton of life force energy expenditure - if you're an honest person - that can potentially, quite literally, kill you. If you aren't honest you might make it in whatever grift, and wouldn't have as hard of time being around people that you aren't ethically compatible with.

I can see without a platform to launch exactly the right idea without the absolute perfect timing how much harder or nearly impossible this would be. Those platforms are not really available to people who don't know "the right people" and act appropriately greasy and self-important these days, IMHO, so there's even more of a luck coefficient than there was 10 years ago.

I want to say "happy thoughts" but we really need smaller communication paths, more diversity of tech approaches and alternative methods, and more funding that attempts to create stable profitable businesses and not unicorns. We need twitter to die so tech influencing stops being a thing that gets followers, and instead projects and ideas get that attention (and participation) instead. Even then, I'm not sure it's going to be "fixed".

Right now, surely though, it does create some terribly bloated technology.

Re: I am done. I give up

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post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of the underappreciated benefits of the Nordic-style welfare state: everybody can afford to fail. Unfortunately it's rarely discussed in society as such. The political parties that built these welfare states have traditionally been associated with worker unions, and entrepreneurship isn't high on their agenda. The Nordic right-wing parties got ideologically married to Thatcher-style neoliberalism and pref…

My intuition is that effective entrepreneurs generally have a strong conviction that they won't fail, and in any case wouldn't want to fall back on taxpayers if they did. They will also disproportionately be averse to paying social democratic tax rates once they, in their mind, inevitably succeed.

This doesn't strike me as something inherently part of entrepreneurship in a world-wide context, but rather something particular to anglo saxon countries, and especially Americans which are big on neoliberal ideology. Americans are also the most anti-government of any people I know.

The Netherlands is split in this I think, but the entrepreneurs I know are nothing like this. They appreciate the safety net and often happily pax taxes, its more that they hate the labour involved. And everybody I speak to has acutely aware of the possibility of failure. Maybe its my circle though, there are also more radical libertarians in my country, but they are a rarity.

Re: I am done. I give up

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A big fact of the entrepreneur world is that it is hugely based on luck. Luck of finding the right idea, the right market, the right timing, the right connections, the right customers, the right employees, the right financing. The basic fact is that most startups and most entrepreneurial dreams fail or get consumed by another for their talent/clients. And as an entrepreneur you fight against all odds. Most will fail…

Was going to say exactly this. People always discount luck in their own stories, but you can always find it there - even if you look at a societal level and it's just luck that the person in question was born here and now, rather than in Mao-era China or wherever.

There's a reason why a lot of businesses fail, and it's not that the people who start them are lazy, stupid or lacking in skills. Obviously some are, but there are a great many people with great ideas that never make it, just like there are brilliant musicians, artists, designers, and anything else you care to name that you'll never hear of but who are very good at what they do.

Re: I am done. I give up

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The issue is who pays for the welfare state. Finland got a lot of its wealth through off sea oil I think. Not easy to replicate in almost every part of the world. If you make the population pay for the welfare state, you are essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul. The people you rob (the ones paying the bulk of taxes) have a lower incentive to produce. This is one reason the energy Windfall taxes being proposed everyw…

Norway, not Finland. >The people you rob (the ones paying the bulk of taxes) have a lower incentive to produce. Sure, the thought of being worth only 150 billion dollars rather than 300 would stop Bezos from starting Amazon.

Bezos would not have kept Amazon in the US if it adopted Nordic welfare levels of taxation.

The fact of the matter is that the EU has a staggeringly low output when it comes to tech innovation compared to the US. Their policies and regulations shape this.

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