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Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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Consider Joe Average defendant whose bail is set at $25,000 bail. If Joe tells the judge "Your Honor, I'll sign a paper that says I'll be $25,000 in debt if I don't show up, but my family can only come up with $200 right now" the judge will probably tell him to pound sand and sit in jail until trial. If SBF tells the judge "Your Honor, I'll sign a paper that says I'll be $250M in debt if I don't show up, but my famil…

You missed the part where the defendant's lawyers provide the court the necessary evidence to convince the court that the total value of the bond is available to be confiscated if the defendant doesn't show. Which would apply in both cases you mentioned.

So what convinced the court that his parents have $250M available? That would be rather surprising based on what's publicly known about them.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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I doubt there will be a trial, as too many politicians could be deposed along with tracing washed funds from US to Ukraine to FTX. He will have an unexpected medical complication or will take a plea deal.

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

SBF comments, and some political organizations returning funds. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/20/ftx-democrats-senate-majorit...

Without a trial and witnesses testifying, most shenanigans will remain unknown. This is why the odds favor he takes a plea or has an unexpected medical issue.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

#473

-- this thread seem to forget bond is not meant to be punitive -- it's to make sure you come back to court - the 8th amendment protects against this - if the court is going to set an excessive bond - they need to grant latitude on how it's exercised -- https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/excessive_bail https://nationalparalegal.edu/ViewNews.aspx?intTakeOnNewsID=...

> this thread seem to forget bond is not meant to be punitive

"meant to" or not, bond is applied punitively against poorer people as a matter of course.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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If you commit crime in the US it better be big and for a lot of money (>$100M) or you’re in trouble. Just over 10k is the highest legal risk per crime dollar.

Over $100M you can game the justice system at the highest levels in most cases. Ask HSBC or Hunter Biden.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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Not any more bullshit than getting a loan by getting someone in good standing to sign they'll pay the full price if you fail.

But they can not pay the full price, right?

Isn't that up to those accepting the deal to determine?

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

#479
I find this kind of weird. If he is a serious flight risk he should NOT have been given bail at all. If not, then, to be honest, 0.25bn USD seems pretty excessive.

It strikes me that the only people who could afford such a bond would be those actually guilty of a multi billion dollar fraud. If you're innocent, you'd be stuck in jail...

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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post #188

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Well, SBF is the master at getting collateral overvalued…

I heard he was playing DOTA while negotiating the whole bail deal.

“I LOVE THIS FOUNDER,” typed the lawyer. “I am a 10 out of 10,” pinged another. “YES!!!” exclaimed the judge.
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