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It's not even tikTok really, it's WeChat or any other CCP monitored social media company. I'd love to have a tikTok not controlled by the CCP (or KGB for that matter). You know, a platform where saying something against the government doesn't result in prison time or death.
The KGB has not existed for decades. If you’re going to make inflammatory statements, you should make sure you’re talking about the correct things.
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We should do both. This is detracting from the fact that we have an actively hostile actor with a huge platform here in our country, and that needs to be handled as soon as possible. I totally support broad regulation of privacy law. TikTok is a much deeper concern. I don't like seeing a good cause used to distract from another good cause.
I often wonder why the average american should be more concerned about China than the CIA or FBI? the FBI has the power to put me in a cage, China does not... I am confused as why china is a bigger threat to me personally than the FBI?
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It's not even tikTok really, it's WeChat or any other CCP monitored social media company. I'd love to have a tikTok not controlled by the CCP (or KGB for that matter). You know, a platform where saying something against the government doesn't result in prison time or death.
The KGB has not existed for decades. If you’re going to make inflammatory statements, you should make sure you’re talking about the correct things.
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> That’s an advantage the US won’t have because [its social media apps are banned in China and] because there aren’t laws that would compel social media companies to hand over data just because the government wants it. Wait, why would it be an advantage for creation of AI in the US if social media companies (or company) could be more easily compelled to give our data to the government? Given that it's the social medi…
Because Bytedance and similar orgs are merged with the CCP. So they pass data up the chain, and the CCP can make new rules, investments, and directives with it. This allows the CCP to accelerate with this data in ways that the US cannot. So CCP gets full access to American residents, without reciprocating US social media actions within it, and then compels Bytedance to give it access.
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I often wonder why the average american should be more concerned about China than the CIA or FBI? the FBI has the power to put me in a cage, China does not... I am confused as why china is a bigger threat to me personally than the FBI?
In Australia, the Chinese government has been very aggressive with our citizens. - Students have had family members back in China threatened with imprisonment for merely attending protests. - Journalists have been kidnapped and are still missing. - Other individuals have been monitored by local embassy staff. - Businesses have seen markets arbitrarily cut-off for any form of criticism. Just because you have not been…
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>>which is why you vote regularly to ensure that your rights are represented and those agencies aren't able to abuse their power That never works out in practice as the administrative state (which includes the FBI and CIA) are soo far removed from representative government they are basically unaccountable at this point, that is with out even getting into the idea that 1 vote in a nation of 350 million plus holds no r…
> "Democracy" is more or less an delusion those in power perpetuate to ensure the cattle think they have a choice I had a much larger post, but I'm going to only respond to this one now, because it sums up basically off the disagreements and no further discussion is going to resolve anything. I don't agree with this sort of cynicism at all, and I very much do believe that while it is very flawed, democracy ultimately…
What data do you have to support the position that "democracy ultimately is still doing its job. " further what "job" do you believe democracy is doing.
I can point to many data points that show it is not, the for mentioned lack of accountability. The fact that most of the voting population does not even vote. I can point to research studies like that from political scientists Martin Gilens and Benjamin Paige [1] that shows Average citizens have little impact on public policy. I have all kinds of data, and clear examples in history to support my position, I would be interested in seeing a counter offer
[1] https://pnhp.org/news/gilens-and-page-average-citizens-have-...
You see this very clearly in the conservative response to US support of Ukraine. You’d expect to see more conservative support for simultaneously defending a free people while also destroying a primary adversary for pennies on the dollar but instead you see a lot of skepticism because the Democrats are all over supporting it.
I also see a similar phenomenon with TikTok, where I think some people defend it principally because banning TikTok was “a Trump thing” and more generally China-hawkishness is viewed as “a Republican thing”.
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Great. Then kill it, then kill any company with Chinese origin that won’t open source it’s hardware and software to the US Government.
The American clones are garbage. The problem with protectionism is it leads to less competition and therefore worse products. If you want apps to stop tracking people just make it illegal for apps to tracks people. Country of origin is irrelelvant.
Country of origin is still very relevant. China has National Security Laws that compel companies and citizens to provide access to and actively help their intelligence agencies. The CCP right now can lawfully order TikTok to push a version with a backdoor and then gaslight the US about its existence if found, e.g. oh that was just an innocent software bug. Or to secretly provide user data and lie about providing it.
I feel like this is talking out of both sides of the mouth. If the issue is that corporations aren't following data privacy laws, build the privacy into the tool at the software/ecosystem level (e.g make signup without true name / phone number / IMEI a legal requirement, signup without location sharing a legal requirement) then it'll be impossible to track journalists for both Chinese and American companies.
We should do both. This is detracting from the fact that we have an actively hostile actor with a huge platform here in our country, and that needs to be handled as soon as possible. I totally support broad regulation of privacy law. TikTok is a much deeper concern. I don't like seeing a good cause used to distract from another good cause.
Can you clarify what you mean here? I realize people are unhappy with how Elon has run Twitter but who do you expect to do what?