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FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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When I needed to post a large bail I couldn't afford I got a personal loan so I wouldn't have to forfeit the bond amount. Bail bond companies are mostly a tool for those without any assets.

SBF will be banned from opening up new lines of credit. Don't know if that only begins after the bail starts though.

His parents wont be. In my case the loan was from a personal acquaintence.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely needed 25M for actually posting bail. He also did a lot of nice things and has a lot of friends, not to mention family. No big stretch of the imagination here.

Which bail bond company came up with the other $225M?

The Solana Foundation

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably very few can guarantee that much. But bondsmen don't have to just cut you loose with zero oversight. For a small slice of the $25m they can hire a team to follow him around 24/7. I assume they also put him in a ankle tracker and have him checking in on a strict schedule. All of this cuts into their profit so it's only as risky as they are cheap about monitoring him.

What recourse would a bail bond company have if they monitored him fleeing? Can they physically detain him? Or just report to the authorities?

Not only can they detain him, if he missed court, they can quite literally hire bounty hunters to track him down and bring him to the court so that they can get the money back.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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post #42

I wish we, as a society, could decide whether M is thousand or million and then only use it to represent that one concept. From the headline I initially assumed his bail was only $250,000 and I don’t think I’m the only one in this thread to have made that mistake.

When does M mean thousand? I've never seen that. K means thousand.

> When does M mean thousand?

Its less common now, but historically the latin-derived “M” for 1000s and “MM” for millions was dominant in finance and accounting; metric-style “k” for 1000s and “M” for millions has become more popular, but you’ll occasionally still encounter the other style.

https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/fixed-income...

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

#56

I wish we, as a society, could decide whether M is thousand or million and then only use it to represent that one concept. From the headline I initially assumed his bail was only $250,000 and I don’t think I’m the only one in this thread to have made that mistake.

Right after we all learn Esperanto.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

#57

Impressive. He was just short 10B of customer funds and managed to come up with 250M so quickly! Must be a legendary trader.

Likely needed 25M for actually posting bail. He also did a lot of nice things and has a lot of friends, not to mention family. No big stretch of the imagination here.

Bail doesn't work that way at this scale. His parents put up the deed to their house, and a couple of really rich friends showed that they have $250 million in assets and agreed to let the government seize them if SBF doesn't show up. No cash really changes hands.

Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

#58

I feel sorry for his parents - legal fees is going to financially wipe them out and any plans for retirement. I'd rather stick to my mediocre returns of my money market accounts than this crypto forex NFT nonsense.

They're free to let him take a plea deal and go to prison

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Re: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250M bail

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably very few can guarantee that much. But bondsmen don't have to just cut you loose with zero oversight. For a small slice of the $25m they can hire a team to follow him around 24/7. I assume they also put him in a ankle tracker and have him checking in on a strict schedule. All of this cuts into their profit so it's only as risky as they are cheap about monitoring him.

What recourse would a bail bond company have if they monitored him fleeing? Can they physically detain him? Or just report to the authorities?

They are legally allowed to detain the defendant.

> If the defendant fails to appear in court, the bond agent is allowed by law or contractual arrangement to bring the defendant to the jurisdiction of the court in order to recover the money paid out under the bond, usually through the use of a bounty hunter.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bail_bondsman

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