Here is my first experience with it.
I installed the app on iOS and Android. After account registration I added from Android my account in iOS. iOS get the invitation immediately then it shows a status that said waiting for Android to connect or something. It stayed like that for 10 minutes until I tried the voice call.
I don't think my voice in Android heard in may iOS phone, but after that we can chat each other.
Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
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Re: Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
#32I've recently tried Jami to chat with a friend using the new(?) Qt client, and it wasn't a very good experience. Scrolling feels terrible. When I scroll up, it keeps going for a moment even though I let go of the scroll wheel. When I scroll down, the view jumps around as images load in. After we filled up the chat a bit, opening it again takes about six seconds. And sometimes, it starts using 60% CPU doing apparently…
Thanks a lot for the feedback, and sorry about the issues. Would you please report them on the Jami bug trackers per https://docs.jami.net/user/bug-report-guide.html if not already? This would help the team keep track, look further into them, and hopefully fix them.
This isn’t really a helpful response. It’s the project owner’s responsibility to maintain the project, not their users.
While it’s certainly nice if the user does this and removes burden from you, it’s a better practice (and engenders more good will from your users) to just ingest this into the bug tracker on the user’s behalf (and dedupe as needed / do a search and give them the link to existing bugs if it describes their issue).
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks a lot for the feedback, and sorry about the issues. Would you please report them on the Jami bug trackers per https://docs.jami.net/user/bug-report-guide.html if not already? This would help the team keep track, look further into them, and hopefully fix them.
This isn’t really a helpful response. It’s the project owner’s responsibility to maintain the project, not their users. While it’s certainly nice if the user does this and removes burden from you, it’s a better practice (and engenders more good will from your users) to just ingest this into the bug tracker on the user’s behalf (and dedupe as needed / do a search and give them the link to existing bugs if it describes…
Yes, the creators should be testing their app. But making bug reports is also a fundamental useful thing. Should I not report bugs in mac os or chrome or python3 because the project owner should have figured it out? No.
Re: Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
#34I wonder how a service like this would look like over IPFS. Or if one could somehow merge the distributive power of IPFS with sharing of end-to-end encrypted information. Or perhaps there's already one? Or perhaps Jami is already superior?
You might be interested checking out Berty then:
Re: Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
#35Is some Jami registration service down?
(For me, just now, `jami-gnome` installed and set up easily enough, including registering my username, but linking the account on the app from F-Droid seems to have left it halfway-done, without the username, and any kind of username lookup from the app from F-Droid hangs indefinitely.)
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn’t really a helpful response. It’s the project owner’s responsibility to maintain the project, not their users. While it’s certainly nice if the user does this and removes burden from you, it’s a better practice (and engenders more good will from your users) to just ingest this into the bug tracker on the user’s behalf (and dedupe as needed / do a search and give them the link to existing bugs if it describes…
Yes, the creators should be testing their app. But making bug reports is also a fundamental useful thing. Should I not report bugs in mac os or chrome or python3 because the project owner should have figured it out? No.
He's saying, and I agree, that a casual first time user making a low friction complaint somewhere like here should simply be digested immediately by a team member and ammended onto a perviously created bug in their system. Or a new bug should be created by a team member.
I do this at my job all the time because our Jira setup is fucking balls and I have all kinds of greesemonkey to make it usable and quick for me. Any casual user is going to bounce the fuck off our jira setup. Secondly I know if there is already a bug in our system covering this issue or not, less time for my team to do de-duping etc.
Re: Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
#37Is some Jami registration service down? (For me, just now, `jami-gnome` installed and set up easily enough, including registering my username, but linking the account on the app from F-Droid seems to have left it halfway-done, without the username, and any kind of username lookup from the app from F-Droid hangs indefinitely.)
If anyone else runs into this problem, looks like maybe the latest version in F-Droid is broken:
https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-client-android/-/...
(I'm not going to try an older version, since I quickly found bug reports that suggest a pattern of breakage, and I already have to use way too much comms software that casually breaks. I might give it another chance later.)
Re: Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
#38How does Jami work if I have multiple devices? For example, I want to connect on my work PC, my home PC, and my phone, share the same account, and see all the messages I sent/received on my work PC when I log into my home PC. This is traditionally the worst UX problem with Signal / Session / Matrix etc. Manually handing keys back and forth is a disaster. Compare that to something like Telegram or WhatsApp where you c…
Jami has "Swarm" conversations, which are git-backed behind the scenes, and can be synchronized across multiple devices and/or participants seamlessly. Actually, thanks to the way Jami uses git, a subset of participants in a group conversation could enter a local network and continue chatting amongst themselves, and once they connect with the rest of the participants again their histories will automatically be synchr…
Is this for real? They really thought git was an appropriate tool on which to build a messaging service?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, the creators should be testing their app. But making bug reports is also a fundamental useful thing. Should I not report bugs in mac os or chrome or python3 because the project owner should have figured it out? No.
He's saying, and I agree, that a casual first time user making a low friction complaint somewhere like here should simply be digested immediately by a team member and ammended onto a perviously created bug in their system. Or a new bug should be created by a team member. I do this at my job all the time because our Jira setup is fucking balls and I have all kinds of greesemonkey to make it usable and quick for me. An…
Yup. About the only two complaints that might reasonably warrant asking the user to create a ticket themselves is the NAT one and the CPU spike doing nothing. For both of those though, rather than having the user create a bug report just to go back and forth over it asynchronously over months until the end user gets discouraged and drops it, a better situation works be diagnostic tools that could monitor and collect data that the devs could then analyze, ideally baked into the code where you just click a button to submit feedback and your code can code to open a bug report or just ingest metrics or something.
Re: Jami: Share, Message, Call freely and privately
#40Great tool. Awful UX. Hire some designers and get them to be the product leaders.
You won’t get momentum with that user experience. Even the website sucks.