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Re: Swing Ratio

#12
This is a misleading interface, because it doesn't actually support continuous variation of swing ratio. I was confused for a while because I couldn't detect anything until 1.06, but it turns out it's just playing pre-rendered mp3s, rounding to the nearest 0.1. I couldn't hear 1.05 because it's the same mp3 as 1.0.

1.06 is rounded to 1.10. It's clearly audible, and IMO a big improvement over 1.0. I think 1.2 is even better, and 1.3 also good, but beyond that the effect becomes too exaggerated for my taste.

Sub 1.0 ratios are interesting. I don't think they sound very good, but they make it feel like the tempo is slower despite being the same.

Re: Swing Ratio

#13
post #2

I'm not sure why, but to me a ratio of about 2.5 sounds the most pleasingly rhythmic. I wonder if it has some interwoven relation with audio perception or if it's just a matter of taste!

To my ears 2.5 sounds both too rushed and a little too regular - I think ~1.9 or ~2.1 sounds best.

Somebody studied a bunch of recordings and found a mean ratio of 2.38:1. That sounds good on this record too. Further in the article are some observations of a correlation between swing ratio and tempo.

http://kth.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1246291/DATASET01...

Re: Swing Ratio

#14
I prefer Groove Pizza for exploring this [1]. Makes it very clear visually, IMO.

There's also a good video explaining it [2].

  [1] https://apps.musedlab.org/groovepizza/
  [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4EtsPf3X-I

Re: Swing Ratio

#17
putting it below 1 reveals one thing swing does- it orients your ear to the beat. as i think lots of musical devices do, it enhances perception. it sounds "backwards" when you have it less than 1

Re: Swing Ratio

#20

I prefer Groove Pizza for exploring this [1]. Makes it very clear visually, IMO. There's also a good video explaining it [2]. [1] https://apps.musedlab.org/groovepizza/ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4EtsPf3X-I

Wow, super cool. As a musician, I find it oddly unintuitive to think of it that way. I guess I approach it more as a bouncing ball, linearly from x=0=>, left to right.
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