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Re: Web IDE Beta

#91

I don't understand that girls is letting that going when they pretend to care for OSS. Microsoft is in the embrace phase, there is not a major forge that will remain that will not force to use their things. Then they will be able to start with messing things, like requiring proprietary extensions to lock down the thing. I guess a lot of people here don't remember the good old time of Visual Studio on Windows.

girls!

Re: Web IDE Beta

#92

Anyone think there'll be another editor that'll surpass VSCode, similar to how VSCode surpassed Atom (and others)? I used to think that there would be one, but now I'm not so sure.

To me VSCode is not comparable to Pycharm for Python programming & debugging. Pycharm just works better and has much better code completion.

pycharm is also MUCH smarter figuring out import paths.

Re: Web IDE Beta

#93
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Tangent: Why is autocomplete getting worse on phones? iOS is notably much worse, often replacing completely correct words with other unrelated words. Frustratingly even doing it _ again _ when you fix the word.

I've disabled iOS autocorrect/autocomplete because it's gotten so bad.

Thank you! My subconcious has been telling me to do that for ages. I finally just did it and am typing this reply without the hand holding. Feels a bit like taking the training wheels off a bike, but good in the same way too.

Re: Web IDE Beta

#94
That's a very bad signal..

Where did all the investor money go? just to slap vscode?

I sincerely hope Sublime Text open sources its editor so the community can hack together a WASM version of ST..

Things are not looking great

Re: Web IDE Beta

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JetBrains gives products in very niche areas. WebStorm for JS, PHPStorm for PHP, RubyMine for Ruby, and GoLand for GoLang. Visual Studio Code is used by people who like to many languages, but more specifically for someone who's job is to work with JavaScript then WebStorm is much better. JetBrains could very well combine all these IDEs into one, but then again think about the amount of space and data of this new IDE.

> Visual Studio Code is used by people who like to many languages I don't like these language. I'm forced to write them. I didn't ask for terraform, typescript, CSS, HTML, yaml, xml, JSON, and everything else. > for someone who's job is to work with JavaScript then WebStorm is much better It's never been my experience that a full IDE is better for dynamic interpreted languages. Maybe if you're used to that from writi…

Try pycharm. It does fantastic error checking that you'd normally need to test the code for. For example, it will infer types for variables and then highlight lines that will cause problems at runtime. It's saved me days of testing the first week I used it.

Re: Web IDE Beta

#97

Anyone think there'll be another editor that'll surpass VSCode, similar to how VSCode surpassed Atom (and others)? I used to think that there would be one, but now I'm not so sure.

With language servers, I think the big IDEs will be less relevant. It'll be easier for anyone to write a text editor with language server integration and make it with just the way they like.

Re: Web IDE Beta

#98
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On my phone (Pixel) if you type 'gitlab' into the Google Keyboard and it suggests 'girls'.

Tangent: Why is autocomplete getting worse on phones? iOS is notably much worse, often replacing completely correct words with other unrelated words. Frustratingly even doing it _ again _ when you fix the word.

It's a difficult balance to strike. The older systems didn't take frequency into account so they'd suggest really obscure words and the newer systems weigh it too heavily so it overrides your intentions. Problems are harder than they appear

Re: Web IDE Beta

#99

Anyone think there'll be another editor that'll surpass VSCode, similar to how VSCode surpassed Atom (and others)? I used to think that there would be one, but now I'm not so sure.

At the end of the day, VS Code is a shitty Electron app. It's one of the most highly optimized and performant Electron apps ever created... but it's still a shitty Electron app. Startup time on my machine is only a hair faster than Jetbrains IDE's launching a JVM, it's ridiculous.

VS Code has the market share that it has because:

1. They encouraged a huge plugin ecosystem.

2. They made it cross-platform and gave it away for free, while Sublime costs money.

3. Most importantly of all (in my cynical opinion), they went "dark mode" by default at just the right time when this was becoming a trendy new feature among devs.

There are plenty of text editors that are far better than VS Code, but they either cost money or are for a single platform only. If someone came out with a free, cross-platform, attractive text editor that was a native executable and got critical mass going with a plugin ecosystem, then VS Code would fall out of fashion within a year. There's no genuine groundswell of support for Microsoft as a trendy entity with brand loyalty among young devs.

The recent boomer adage "No one wants to work anymore" simply has its sad technical analogue, "No one wants to create desktop apps anymore".

Re: Web IDE Beta

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I've seen Fleet in my JB Toolbox, but haven't touched it yet. But it is the obvious move. All the current JB IDEs are built upon the same basic IntelliJ platform, anyway. It's "only" a matter of restructuring all that to have only one IDE where you can opt-in to support specific languages and now you have something like VSCode.

You already have that with Idea, with a few exceptions (C/C++, and possibly C#). You can install the Python plugin & friends -> PyCharm You can install the Go plugin -> Goland Etc

I'm not sure why, but nobody I know uses this setup – everybody has 2–3 separate IDEs (one for backend, one for frontend etc).

The initial reason behind having separate IDEs for every language, or so I was told, was using different keybindings. This way, XCode users could easily switch to AppCode, Visual Studio users – to Rider etc. – without the need to re-learn anything. (This is the reason I still have Atom keybindings in my Codium setup.)

But why would anyone want to use different IDEs with different keybindings is a complete mystery to me.

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