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Re: I still use Flash

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Post by graderjs »

bugmen0t wrote: post #28

Surprising there is no mention of the wasm/rust-implemented flash player https://ruffle.rs/ in the article.

I recently used Ruffle [2] to get some Flash applications [0] working in the Pro version of my web browser [1], which is specifically designed to be remotely accessible and embeddable in an iframe. To run Ruffle on pages that require it, I utilize the Chrome Remote Debugging Protocol [3], similar to how a Chrome extension content script operates. Ruffle itself relies on WebAssembly and runs smoothly. It's been exciting to see the audio and video functionality of these old games restored and being able to play them again.

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[0]: https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/wiki/Test-SWFs

[1]: https://github.com/crisdosyago/BrowserBox#bb-pro-vs-regular-...

[2]: https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle

[3]: https://chromedevtools.github.io/devtools-protocol/tot/

Re: I still use Flash

#33

Post by ZiiS »

nkozyra wrote: post #4
worldsavior wrote: post #3

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I didn't read the whole thing but my sense was what was actually preserved was the game's code in AS3. I think you could still call this a soft port.

the AS3 was converted to CPP; sounds like some automation but fairly manually.

Re: I still use Flash

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Post by unsafecast »

rogual wrote: post #2

Hey HN, I haven't done a lot of technical postmortem blogpost-style writing so I'd welcome any feedback or tips on how to improve. Is it too long, too short, too technical, not technical enough? Boring? Interesting? Is it enlightening or does it just come off like content marketing? I literally have no idea how good I am at this.

I liked it a lot! It doesn't feel like marketing at all, and I think it's a good balance between technical and non-technical (though I wouldn't mind more details).

Keep writing!

Re: I still use Flash

#35

Post by pie_flavor »

rogual wrote: post #2

Hey HN, I haven't done a lot of technical postmortem blogpost-style writing so I'd welcome any feedback or tips on how to improve. Is it too long, too short, too technical, not technical enough? Boring? Interesting? Is it enlightening or does it just come off like content marketing? I literally have no idea how good I am at this.

This is pretty great writing, I'd love to read more of it.

Re: I still use Flash

#36

Post by numair »

Really great writeup. So people stop asking the obvious question, here is the GitHub issue that clearly shows Ruffle doesn’t support ActionScript 3:

https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle/issues/1368

I recently picked up a copy of Flash MX to use on an old PowerBook, highly recommend others do the same. As many have commented, today’s authoring tools are poor substitutes (someone should do a list of the superior abandonware versions of SaaS products).

Re: I still use Flash

#37

Post by zulu-inuoe »

bugmen0t wrote: post #28

Surprising there is no mention of the wasm/rust-implemented flash player https://ruffle.rs/ in the article.

They did mention it. They use it for some of their older games but it seems like Ruffle isn't yet feature-complete with Action Script 3 and thus cannot be used to run their newer games

Re: I still use Flash

#38

Post by lukaszkups »

I do really enjoyed this kin-of-post-mortem! Please write more, I'd love to hear about your other projects!

As a side note: In my opinion the closest replacement for Flash is currently Construct 3 engine - you should definitely take a look on it! (I'm not associated with Construct 3 team (Scirra) by any means - I'm just a happy user of their product)

Re: I still use Flash

#39

Post by pmarreck »

> Although I developed the game mostly on my Mac, during development Apple invented this thing called “Notarization” where if you run any app on a new version of MacOS, it'll make a network request to Apple to ask if the app's developer pays Apple a yearly fee. If the developer does not pay Apple a yearly fee, MacOS will pop up a dialog strongly implying the app is a virus and refuse to start it.

> For this reason, Windows will be the first and maybe only release platform for this game.

this seems like the wrong answer to the (arguably legitimate) concern posed. the first and maybe only release platform for this game, based on the reasoning, should have been Linux. It's not like Microsoft can't decide to arbitrarily force exe's to phone home for "security" reasons, but good luck getting the Linux kernel, or any distro, to do that.

I'm 100% convinced that Linux will be the way all software will be preserved in the future; Proton will take care of windows exe's and VM's will take care of Macs, and a deterministic OS like NixOS will let you define exactly what any piece of software needs to build and run, forever. The incentives just line up.

Re: I still use Flash

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Post by kulor »

rogual wrote: post #2

Hey HN, I haven't done a lot of technical postmortem blogpost-style writing so I'd welcome any feedback or tips on how to improve. Is it too long, too short, too technical, not technical enough? Boring? Interesting? Is it enlightening or does it just come off like content marketing? I literally have no idea how good I am at this.

There's a gem of a hidden narrative here for more junior developers that you don't always need to start over (which 9/10 fails) but instead be resourceful within your constraints and to be mindful of what your constraints actually are, which don't have to be new and shiny.
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